[EvaH (OP)]

Robyn asks:

Do you think that 5G internet will be harmful in any way to humans or nature?

Can you help?

[Bored chemist]

On the contrary, it's probably saving lives.

[evan_au]

It will probably displease a few pigeons, as their favorite roost is taken over by a 5G microcell.

But they will come to appreciate it in winter, as it will keep their feet warm.

[Bobolink]

Do you think that 5G internet will be harmful in any way to humans or nature?

Almost definitely not.
The question will be answered for sure within th next 50 years. 
Everything in life entails risk, the risk in this case is small enough not to worry about.

[RD]

It will probably displease a few pigeons, as their favorite roost is taken over by a 5G microcell.

Some will gain a fake 5G tree ... https://youtu.be/9lojBRZpocU?t=24

[ElineChr48]

I think that yes

[Bored chemist]

I think that yes

Is that thought based on science, or just a guess?

[ScienceMann]

regarding 5G one can often read that if you actively use a service, you are exposed to more radiation which is somehow true because higher existing frequencies compared to LTE technology results in the range being reduced which will lead to more transmission masts.

However, if you consider aspects such as the fact that with increasing frequency the radiation penetrates less deeply into our skin and the fact that the extent of damage to health has not yet been proven, I am initially open with regard to the whole topic.

[scientistlover1]

Hey Guys,
previous G networks use frequencies between 700 megahertz and six gigahertz. The 5G network works with frequencies from 28 to 100 gigahertz.
The effects of electromagnetic radiation include increased risk of cancer, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damage, structural and functional changes in reproductive systems, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders and negative effects on the general well-being of humans.
Harmful effects of electromagnetic radiation on animals and plants are also possible.
Best regards (:

[Bored chemist]

The effects of electromagnetic radiation include increased risk of cancer, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damage, structural and functional changes in reproductive systems, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders and negative effects on the general well-being of humans.

Got evidence?

[set fair]

The effects of electromagnetic radiation include

enabling life to flourish

[set fair]

Nobody knows. Sabine explains

[Bored chemist]

Who is Sabine ?

[Colin2B]

Who is Sabine ?

Sabine Hossenfelder. Research Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies

Full article http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/12/all-you-need-to-know-about-5g.html

[evan_au]

The 5G network works with frequencies from 28 to 100 gigahertz.
The effects of electromagnetic radiation include increased risk of cancer

You act as if these two statements have something to do with each other.
- 100 GHz is 10¹¹ Hz
- Electromagnetic radiation which causes cancer has radiation powerful enough to disrupt DNA, ie UV (10¹⁵ Hz), X-Ray (10¹⁶ Hz) and Gamma Rays (> 10¹⁷Hz).

So you are at least 10,000 times wrong, in just 2 sentences...

[evan_au]

5G Mobile often gets confused with 5G WiFi.
- The "5G" in Mobile means "5th Generation". It uses frequencies between 0.6 and 30GHz.
- The 5G on your Router means "5 GHz", as distinct from the older 2.4 GHz WiFi band (which suffers interference from your 2.4 GHz microwave oven)

[alancalverd]

If your microwave oven interferes with your WiFi, you have a problem! 2.4 GHz is strongly absorbed by water, which is how your microwave oven cooks stuff - like human flesh.

[Bored chemist]

If your microwave oven interferes with your WiFi, you have a problem!

Not necessarily.
Your microwave oven generates hundreds of watts of RF power . Some fraction of that will escape.
Your WiFi network also transmits RF (sometimes at much the same wavelengths), but at much lower power.
So it's understandable that, if the WiFi receiver is closer to the oven than to the router, even a small leak may dominate the signal that reaches the receiver.
Permitted leakage from an oven is about 5 mW per square cm.
My microwave's window is about 20 cm by 30 cm
That's about 3 watts of permissible leakage.
My WIFI is only "allowed" to broadcast 0.1 watts.
So, of course there can be interference (The big question is what nitwit decided to use the same wavelength for both?)
The standard for permitted exposure for microwave radiation is about 10 w/m^2 (It depends on local legislation. the first value I found was on page 12 of this)
https://www.arpansa.gov.au/sites/default/files/legacy/pubs/rps/rps3.pdf


 such that , even if there was no door on your microwave, and it was spilling the whole, say 1000 watts of power into the kitchen
That's enough to raise 100  square metres to the permitted limit.
If we assume the radiation from the oven is a hemisphere then, with no protection at all, the microwave oven could be considered "safe" at about 4 metres.
Real domestic microwave ovens are seldom rated to produce as much as 1 KW.

[alancalverd]

4 m is quite a big kitchen. Most people stand and watch their lunch go round in circles, which is why we have seals and Faraday cages on microwave cookers. The organ of significance here is generally the lens of the eye, with evidence of acute and chronic exposures inducing cataracts . It is interesting that the  occupational exposure limits in the former Soviet countries were set between 0.1% and 1% of the western standards. 

[Bored chemist]

4 m is quite a big kitchen. Most people stand and watch their lunch go round in circles, which is why we have seals and Faraday cages on microwave cookers. The organ of significance here is generally the lens of the eye, with evidence of acute and chronic exposures inducing cataracts . It is interesting that the  occupational exposure limits in the former Soviet countries were set between 0.1% and 1% of the western standards. 

"4 m is quite a big kitchen."
Not if you plan to spend 24 hrs a day in it.

My point was that a microwave oven is "nearly safe" even without the door.
Even a badly built oven will channel a lot more power into your baked potato than into you.

It is interesting that the  occupational exposure limits in the former Soviet countries were set between 0.1% and 1% of the western standards. 

It's a famous observation that, at its height, the Soviet Union had the most stringent occupation exposure limits in the world.
And they also had two inspectors.