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Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?

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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #20 on: 04/02/2021 22:31:19 »
 These posts are very interesting.  They lead me to wonder: Suppose we think about  so-called "heavy water".

You know what I'm referring to. The water used in nuclear research, such as making the atomic bomb.

How much heavier is it than ordinary water, and if it's frozen, is its ice heavier?
 
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #21 on: 04/02/2021 23:03:39 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 04/02/2021 22:31:19
How much heavier is it than ordinary water
About 10%, whether it's solid or liquid (or gas, come to that)
"Heavy ice" will sink in ordinary water.
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #22 on: 05/02/2021 05:30:13 »
Depends on what you are holding it in.
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #23 on: 05/02/2021 12:56:39 »
Quote from: Janus on 28/01/2021 16:31:14
Now is is true that 1 litre = ~1.057 qt. , and 1 qt = 32 fl oz.
Only in the USA.

A quart is 2 pints (a quarter of a gallon)  wherever you are. But a US pint is 16 fl oz, whilst an Imperial pint is 20 fl oz, which is why the US gallon is 6 Imperial pints but 8 US pints, i.e. 4 quarts. This partially accounts for the poor published fuel consumption of American cars: a British car is 33% more efficient!

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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #24 on: 05/02/2021 20:17:35 »
Why is the US so resistant to the metric system.

I think that in the early years of the Space Age, it was because US astronauts might get confused in an emergency.

Such as a meteorite puncturing the thin metal skin of their Mercury, or Gemini space capsule. 

In such a case, the astronauts might radio to ground-control: "Houston, we have a problem. We have a leak. Our oxygen is rapidly venting"

Houston might reply: "Roger, to plug the leak, insert stuffing into the hole.  It's 16 centimetres to the left of switch A on your console"

The astronauts would reply: " Say that again, Houston, what's 16 centimetres  ..... agh ,  we can't breathe......"

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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #25 on: 15/04/2022 02:05:33 »
A liter of water weighs more than a liter  of ice ,water has a unique property of being less dense in its solid form.I know this but I can’t explain it.but ice floats on water so it’s lighter,this is why they call it a liter.we use inches because it’s American we should endeavor to force the world to accept the inch system on the rest of the world so they would have to buy measuring instruments from the U.S.if you want to rule the world get an Emperor,if you want to rule the universe get a scientist! :o :o
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #26 on: 15/04/2022 11:03:51 »
Quote from: shootrj2003 on 15/04/2022 02:05:33
water has a unique property of being less dense in its solid form
It's not unique. Tin does the same thing.

Quote from: shootrj2003 on 15/04/2022 02:05:33
it’s lighter,this is why they call it a liter.
No, it's not.
The word litre is derived from ancient Greek.

Quote from: shootrj2003 on 15/04/2022 02:05:33
we use inches because it’s American
Inches aren't American; they are English.
Though the pre-revolutionary French had a similar unit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_inch
and I would imagine other countries did too.

Quote from: shootrj2003 on 15/04/2022 02:05:33
we should endeavor to force the world to accept the inch system on the rest of the world
The British pretty nearly did that.
But after a while we realised it was silly, and went Metric.
We are waiting for the Americans to catch up.
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #27 on: 15/04/2022 12:18:11 »
Although the difference between the American and the Europeon gallon causes confusion in the MPG figures there is an actual difference in the efficiency of engines because the low octane rating of the fuel means a lower expansion ratio must be used
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #28 on: 15/04/2022 16:10:06 »
Quote from: syhprum on 15/04/2022 12:18:11
Although the difference between the American and the Europeon gallon causes confusion in the MPG figures there is an actual difference in the efficiency of engines because the low octane rating of the fuel means a lower expansion ratio must be used
I once told an American who was gloating about their petrol prices that a US gallon is smaller than Imperial. He didn't like it at all. Don't you know that everything is bigger in America?
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #29 on: 15/04/2022 16:15:39 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 05/02/2021 20:17:35
"Houston, we have a problem. We have a leak. Our oxygen is rapidly venting"
"Hello, this is NASA Houston here. We are currently experiencing unprecedented call volume, and all our operators are busy. Please be assured that your call is important to us. If you're calling to order a pizza, please press #, otherwise hold the line and your query will be dealt with as soon as possible. You are currently number 46 in the queue."
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #30 on: 15/04/2022 16:28:37 »
Quote from: syhprum on 15/04/2022 12:18:11
Although the difference between the American and the Europeon gallon causes confusion in the MPG figures there is an actual difference in the efficiency of engines because the low octane rating of the fuel means a lower expansion ratio must be used
And the Americans measure octane number differently too...


Quote from: vhfpmr on 15/04/2022 16:10:06
Don't you know that everything is bigger in America?
Would these be the same Americans who think that " A pint's a pound the world around" (and wonder why they can't hold their beer) ?
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #31 on: 15/04/2022 16:54:19 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 05/02/2021 20:17:35
Why is the US so resistant to the metric system.
Because no metric nation has landed a man on the moon, and everyone knows (from hard experience) that altitude should be measured in feet if you want to make a soft landing on Mars. 
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #32 on: 15/04/2022 16:56:57 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 15/04/2022 11:03:51
Inches aren't American; they are English.
Though the pre-revolutionary French had a similar unit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_inch
and until 1916 there were two British inches, so artillery shells made in Coventry didn't fit the cartridges made in Woolwich. That said, the metrics still lost the war.
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Re: Which weighs more, a litre of ice or a litre of water?
« Reply #33 on: 04/05/2022 19:53:04 »
B C , I was not aware of differences in octane rating determination. I thought the n-heptane/isooctane standard was universal. Is there also disagreement on the diesel cetane rating? would love to know more on this.
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