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Quote from: answon1 on 03/06/2013 08:24:10 newbielink:https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/angebote/angebote-ab-donnerstag-2-mai/detailseite-kw18-do/ps/p/multinorm-power-eiweiss-shake-122portionen1/ [nonactive]Its not from meat, its from milk, soy, collagen, egg-white..I'm German too and at the moment looking for a protein shake. Gonna try that too
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First i had symptoms like all you guys brain fog,fatigue etc which usuallly lasted on day,then i had jaundice, it remain for 4 months i could not eat anything and got sevely weak lost more than half of my weight.(it was in 2009)After that the symptoms changed,brain fog was permanent after O my abdomen becomes so weak that i could barely walk and could not travel in car because abdomen becomes so weak it feels like it will break when i walk more than five minutes i cannot.these symptoms remains 4,5 days.Any idea what causing this?
So my question to all of you is: has anyone else tried going gluten and lactose free and did that affect your POIS symptoms?Cheers
I did the test Herman ask me to do : Free T3 : 2,72 RV : 1,70-3,70Free T4 : 14,20 RV : 4,10-18,5TSH : 0,740 RV : 0,350 - 4,94Potassium : 4,3nmol/l RV : 3,5-5,1Sodium : 138nmol/l RV : 136-145Chlore : 101nmol/l RV : 98-107iron serum : 101ug/de RV 60-160Ferritin : 101,6ng/ml RV : 21,8-274Calcium : 2,58nmol/l RV : 2,10-2,55Magnesium : 20mg/l RV : 16-26I'm waiting for ceruloplasmin that i'll get in a week.From what I see, everything is pretty normal especially thyroid.The only thing that could show something is Calcium, but not much high ; High calcium is apparently hyperparathyroidy in most of the case ; The symtoms of that perfectly match with POIS especially mentals one.I did suplement Vit D but not that much and not for long time so I dont' think high calcium come from that.Any comments ?
Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 01/06/2013 12:15:46I did the test Herman ask me to do : Free T3 : 2,72 RV : 1,70-3,70Free T4 : 14,20 RV : 4,10-18,5TSH : 0,740 RV : 0,350 - 4,94Potassium : 4,3nmol/l RV : 3,5-5,1Sodium : 138nmol/l RV : 136-145Chlore : 101nmol/l RV : 98-107iron serum : 101ug/de RV 60-160Ferritin : 101,6ng/ml RV : 21,8-274Calcium : 2,58nmol/l RV : 2,10-2,55Magnesium : 20mg/l RV : 16-26I'm waiting for ceruloplasmin that i'll get in a week.From what I see, everything is pretty normal especially thyroid.The only thing that could show something is Calcium, but not much high ; High calcium is apparently hyperparathyroidy in most of the case ; The symtoms of that perfectly match with POIS especially mentals one.I did suplement Vit D but not that much and not for long time so I dont' think high calcium come from that.Any comments ?I just got the result of the last test I did following Herman's requierement : Ceruloplasmin at 9h48am : 0,16g/l range is 0,15 to 0,30Herman, i'm really curious to hear your conclusion about my case
For some reason no one wants to reply to my posts,im leaving this forum.Thank you
Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 06/06/2013 19:53:56Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 01/06/2013 12:15:46I did the test Herman ask me to do : Free T3 : 2,72 RV : 1,70-3,70Free T4 : 14,20 RV : 4,10-18,5TSH : 0,740 RV : 0,350 - 4,94Potassium : 4,3nmol/l RV : 3,5-5,1Sodium : 138nmol/l RV : 136-145Chlore : 101nmol/l RV : 98-107iron serum : 101ug/de RV 60-160Ferritin : 101,6ng/ml RV : 21,8-274Calcium : 2,58nmol/l RV : 2,10-2,55Magnesium : 20mg/l RV : 16-26I'm waiting for ceruloplasmin that i'll get in a week.From what I see, everything is pretty normal especially thyroid.The only thing that could show something is Calcium, but not much high ; High calcium is apparently hyperparathyroidy in most of the case ; The symtoms of that perfectly match with POIS especially mentals one.I did suplement Vit D but not that much and not for long time so I dont' think high calcium come from that.Any comments ?I just got the result of the last test I did following Herman's requierement : Ceruloplasmin at 9h48am : 0,16g/l range is 0,15 to 0,30Herman, i'm really curious to hear your conclusion about my caseLow ceruloplasmin points to underactive adrenals and/or copper deficiency/biounavailability (which some say to be related to each other).This confirms the possibility of low adrenals, as lowish sodium indicated. Probably adrenals are weaker than thyroid.I'll let Herman speak :-)
Quote from: urano75 on 06/06/2013 23:12:00Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 06/06/2013 19:53:56Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 01/06/2013 12:15:46I did the test Herman ask me to do : Free T3 : 2,72 RV : 1,70-3,70Free T4 : 14,20 RV : 4,10-18,5TSH : 0,740 RV : 0,350 - 4,94Potassium : 4,3nmol/l RV : 3,5-5,1Sodium : 138nmol/l RV : 136-145Chlore : 101nmol/l RV : 98-107iron serum : 101ug/de RV 60-160Ferritin : 101,6ng/ml RV : 21,8-274Calcium : 2,58nmol/l RV : 2,10-2,55Magnesium : 20mg/l RV : 16-26I'm waiting for ceruloplasmin that i'll get in a week.From what I see, everything is pretty normal especially thyroid.The only thing that could show something is Calcium, but not much high ; High calcium is apparently hyperparathyroidy in most of the case ; The symtoms of that perfectly match with POIS especially mentals one.I did suplement Vit D but not that much and not for long time so I dont' think high calcium come from that.Any comments ?I just got the result of the last test I did following Herman's requierement : Ceruloplasmin at 9h48am : 0,16g/l range is 0,15 to 0,30Herman, i'm really curious to hear your conclusion about my caseLow ceruloplasmin points to underactive adrenals and/or copper deficiency/biounavailability (which some say to be related to each other).This confirms the possibility of low adrenals, as lowish sodium indicated. Probably adrenals are weaker than thyroid.I'll let Herman speak :-)Urano, thanks for your explanations wich are always interesting to hear.From what I understand, low ceruloplasmin/low total copper would be more mean copper toxicity due to to much free copper than the opposite.Actually with this blood tests and my symtoms, it could be a suspicion of Wilson disease.I dont think I have Wilson's(I need to check My 24h copper) but I could have a problem due too a bit two much of free copper in my system.How do you see that adrenals are week ?..what is the link with ceruloplasmin ? Is there a way to monitor adrenal functions ? A way too improove it's functions ?Have you heard about hyperparathyroidy ?
Thanks for listing your symptoms, answon1. I've added the data to my compilation. https://sites.google.com/site/poiscompilationsbyvm/
Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 07/06/2013 12:11:31Quote from: urano75 on 06/06/2013 23:12:00Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 06/06/2013 19:53:56Quote from: LAPOISSE2 on 01/06/2013 12:15:46I did the test Herman ask me to do : Free T3 : 2,72 RV : 1,70-3,70Free T4 : 14,20 RV : 4,10-18,5TSH : 0,740 RV : 0,350 - 4,94Potassium : 4,3nmol/l RV : 3,5-5,1Sodium : 138nmol/l RV : 136-145Chlore : 101nmol/l RV : 98-107iron serum : 101ug/de RV 60-160Ferritin : 101,6ng/ml RV : 21,8-274Calcium : 2,58nmol/l RV : 2,10-2,55Magnesium : 20mg/l RV : 16-26I'm waiting for ceruloplasmin that i'll get in a week.From what I see, everything is pretty normal especially thyroid.The only thing that could show something is Calcium, but not much high ; High calcium is apparently hyperparathyroidy in most of the case ; The symtoms of that perfectly match with POIS especially mentals one.I did suplement Vit D but not that much and not for long time so I dont' think high calcium come from that.Any comments ?I just got the result of the last test I did following Herman's requierement : Ceruloplasmin at 9h48am : 0,16g/l range is 0,15 to 0,30Herman, i'm really curious to hear your conclusion about my caseLow ceruloplasmin points to underactive adrenals and/or copper deficiency/biounavailability (which some say to be related to each other).This confirms the possibility of low adrenals, as lowish sodium indicated. Probably adrenals are weaker than thyroid.I'll let Herman speak :-)Urano, thanks for your explanations wich are always interesting to hear.From what I understand, low ceruloplasmin/low total copper would be more mean copper toxicity due to to much free copper than the opposite.Actually with this blood tests and my symtoms, it could be a suspicion of Wilson disease.I dont think I have Wilson's(I need to check My 24h copper) but I could have a problem due too a bit two much of free copper in my system.How do you see that adrenals are week ?..what is the link with ceruloplasmin ? Is there a way to monitor adrenal functions ? A way too improove it's functions ?Have you heard about hyperparathyroidy ?Lapoisse,I have already answered to some of your questions about your labs in #18821, you possibly overlooked it:"About (very slightly) high calcium, have your PTH and Vit D3 tested to rule out hyperpara or D overdosing. It can be an idea to test ionized calcium too next time.Sodium is a pinch low maybe, ideal is about 141. Check if you had aldosterone/renin in some recent labs, and they were OK. Do you have postural (orthostatic) hypotension?Your TSH is a little on the low side, even though plain FT3/FT4 values don't fully suggest overactive thyroid. Check your temps and heart rate as I suggested in my previous post.I've also written several posts recently on how to assess adrenal function with temperatures, blood pressure, salivar and blood tests, please check them.I don't normally write much about recovering adrenal function because I'm in the process of finding the way out myself after trying so many different things.Also, recovering from an adrenal crash can be a process lasting for months and even years, and demands a change of lifestyle in terms of stress management, diet, exercise, sleep habits, so it requires a lot of dedication and patience.In a nutshell, depending on the adrenal status, you can use adaptogenics herbs, vitamins & minerals, glandulars and in more serious cases hormones replacement (pregnenolone, DHEA, HC or isocort...). I don't really recommend using hormones (which I did) if not strictly necessary, because they just replace from the external what should be balanced from the inside, and worst might lead to adrenal suppression if not used very carefully.This is really something one has to find his own way. Some startup resources in http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/About ceruloplasmin I am not very expert on this, so take my statements easy. And the copper topic is a tricky one morever.Low ceruloplasmin depends either on the fact that you liver dosn't make enough of it, and one of the most likely causes is low adrenals.Or that you do not have enough bioavailable copper around, either because you are copper deficient, or because you tend to accumulate it in tissues (Wilson is a rare and extreme cause of that). Copper imbalance typically affects iron metabolism as well.As serum copper/zinc values do not seem to be very representative of what's stored in tissues or used by cells, they don't really shed much light in themselves.Personally, I do have a cerulosplasmin on the low side the same as you do, and I've had a chance to see the same in few other POIS suffererers, so I tend to believe that copper metabolism might have an importance in our symptoms, at least for some of us.Maybe someone knows more about this and can explain it better.I hope this helps in the meantime.