[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

So , science is real we see phenomena and explain them well.
Magic is real , we see unbelievable actions done by magicians.
Magic is real , but it contradicts  science.

I see those people who fly , gathering many people from inside a small box, etc
Magic is not only about some magical performances that we don't know how they works , but also magical  actions that contracts science .An example of silence contradiction : How a volume of 10 men with specific density be placed inside a small box .Or how these men disappear if mass can't be destroyed.

It is not one thing we are waiting for some scientist to explain , it is a huge reality that contracts science.
We can not ignore scientists who accept religion and have arguments whose they believe are logical and we can not ignore those scientists who reject religion and question its validity . If so why not for religion , God created the universe in 6 days and the world came from a big bang.
An equivalent :
A)  A magician created a person from inside a box " religion " and
B) The person already exists " science".
If silence rejects A then it is against reality , if religion rejects B then it is a against the reality of the universe.

[Bored chemist]

Do you understand that "magic" is not real?

[Kryptid]

The "magic" done by stage magicians are illusions. Tricks. They are not real.

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

The "magic" done by stage magicians are illusions. Tricks. They are not real.

This how to be describing some phenomena that do not go with science.If we see something " illusions" that it really has been done by "tricks" and when touching a box and touching the 10 men"not real ", so What it left to judge it true?
 If you say the above you will also have a scientific problem by the need to define that illusion how it exists ? how this is out of our scientific observation tool ?

[Bored chemist]

All the "magic" tricks rely on not letting people see what is really happening.
But science is about making observations.

[Yahya A.Sharif (OP)]

Some easy ones are tricks some are not  ,here are several explained magics
https://brightside.me/wonder-curiosities/10-secrets-behind-the-most-famous-magic-tricks-revealed-364360/
But I do not have any source in which the magician himself  tell its reason .
The floating man will not tell what he is doing , but the scientific explanation in the link is impossible The person appears to raise no weight. He keeps his body shape.And he does it for a long time. The floating man is simply uses the stick for balance.
The important question is how scientifically this floating person raise himself , keep his body shape and stand still for a long period ? I did not find any explanation in the web than the above .And above all there is not an official scientific source that talk about it.

[Kryptid]

If you say the above you will also have a scientific problem by the need to define that illusion how it exists ?

"If I can't explain how it was done then it must be magic" is an example of the argument from ignorance fallacy. So please avoid doing that again. It's flawed reasoning.

Some easy ones are tricks some are not

Please show us some examples of magic acts that are not tricks. Make sure to provide plenty of strong evidence to back up your assertions.

[Bored chemist]

The floating man will not tell what he is doing , but the scientific explanation in the link is impossible The person appears to raise no weight. He keeps his body shape.And he does it for a long time.

Here is a man doing essentially the same thing.
He explains how the "trick" is done,.
It is an illusion.

https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20170630-silver-man-secret/

[puppypower]

Science does a mathematical magic trick, similar to levitation, called relative reference. The trick is based using energy signals and only the eyes to define motion between references. The trick works by leaving something important out of the field of view. This sets of hidden wires is called conservation of energy, through inertia and momentum.

For example, say we have a car and train in relative motion. Both run very quiet and smooth so it is hard to tell  motion, based on any sense of feeling; inertia. We have only the eyes and can measure a relative velocity V from either reference, but we cannot tell who is moving with our eyes alone.

The trick has to do with energy conservation. If the train is moving, based on the accurate tracking of the fuel used to set up the entire experiment, the amount of energy as kinetic energy for the train moving will be much higher, than it would be for the car. We see relative motion but energy conservation sets a priority that is not relative. The fuel total tells us the exact velocity of the train and car since the total energy has to add up.

If these hidden wires are known in advance, the trick does not work. Unfortunately, as we look out into the universe, we have no clue of energy balances. The hidden wires are out of view and the universe can appear to have no center of gravity, even if implied by energy conservation. This trick fools most of science until they ponder that energy conservation are the hidden wires.

[Kryptid]

Science does a mathematical magic trick, similar to levitation, called relative reference. The trick is based using energy signals and only the eyes to define motion between references. The trick works by leaving something important out of the field of view. This sets of hidden wires is called conservation of energy, through inertia and momentum.

For example, say we have a car and train in relative motion. Both run very quiet and smooth so it is hard to tell  motion, based on any sense of feeling; inertia. We have only the eyes and can measure a relative velocity V from either reference, but we cannot tell who is moving with our eyes alone.

The trick has to do with energy conservation. If the train is moving, based on the accurate tracking of the fuel used to set up the entire experiment, the amount of energy as kinetic energy for the train moving will be much higher, than it would be for the car. We see relative motion but energy conservation sets a priority that is not relative.

If these hidden wires are known in advance, the trick does not work. If we look out into the universe, we have no clue of energy balances, since the hidden wires are out of view and the universe can appear to have no center of gravity, that is implied by energy conservation. This trick fools most of science until they consider energy conservation.

Please don't derail this into a discussion about relativity. There is no magic in it.

[puppypower]

Science does a mathematical magic trick, similar to levitation, called relative reference. The trick is based using energy signals and only the eyes to define motion between references. The trick works by leaving something important out of the field of view. This sets of hidden wires is called conservation of energy, through inertia and momentum.

For example, say we have a car and train in relative motion. Both run very quiet and smooth so it is hard to tell  motion, based on any sense of feeling; inertia. We have only the eyes and can measure a relative velocity V from either reference, but we cannot tell who is moving with our eyes alone.

The trick has to do with energy conservation. If the train is moving, based on the accurate tracking of the fuel used to set up the entire experiment, the amount of energy as kinetic energy for the train moving will be much higher, than it would be for the car. We see relative motion but energy conservation sets a priority that is not relative.

If these hidden wires are known in advance, the trick does not work. If we look out into the universe, we have no clue of energy balances, since the hidden wires are out of view and the universe can appear to have no center of gravity, that is implied by energy conservation. This trick fools most of science until they consider energy conservation.

Please don't derail this into a discussion about relativity. There is no magic in it.

In the case of levitation, the hidden wires are exerting the extra force needed to balance out gravity, so the assistant appears to defy gravity. The hidden wires are part of an energy balance that cannot be seen by the audience. They calculate the energy differently in their head, and then they are coaxed to add an anti-gravity addendum; levitation. Relative reference does the same thing, but in a different way. The eyes cannot see the momentum that satisfies an unknown energy balance. It takes science skills to do magic, and science skills to figure out how it works.

[charles1948]

Isn't our modern"Science"  the practical accomplishment of all the ancient dreams of "Magic".

[Kryptid]

Isn't our modern"Science"  the practical accomplishment of all the ancient dreams of "Magic".

I suppose one might interpret it that way, but the OP seems to be talking about magic in the literal sense.

[hamdani yusuf]

This short video explains a lot about what magic is.

So for those who don't accept magic, the title could be changed to
Not accepting magic? Why religion?

[puppypower]

This short video explains a lot about what magic is.

So for those who don't accept magic, the title could be changed to
Not accepting magic? Why religion?

Magic makes use of the sense of sight. Sight is critical to the magic of levitation or card tricks. Since we cannot see God, sight is not as important to religion as science or magic. 

In the Wizard of Oz, the wizard used a visual display to create the magic illusion of an all powerful wizard. Religion does not depend on sight the same way, but rather works using an inner vision and intuition; faith. These are different senses, more in line with feelings and hunches.  Although religion will often use static statues; subjective power of art, to bridge the sense of sight.   

Frontier Science often uses the same approach as religion. For example, nobody has proven that dark energy or dark matter exists. These cannot satisfy the eyes or the visual senses since we cannot see them, even with the best tools. However, this theory appears to satisfy an inner feeling and intuition, that we need something to close the energy balance. Like in religion, these feelings make things appear to add up. Darwinism uses the same approach, since it cannot be used to make accurate predictions, like most rational relationships.

If you consider applied science, such as engineering, one often has to create or innovate things that are not yet in existence. One cannot use sight, since it does not yet exist. Instead, you take the religious approach of hunches and intuitions blended with experience. Like a little god, you try to go beyond nature to something never seen in nature. After it works, and others can see it, then they jump on the band wagon and call the final product science. But we only got there; eureka, based on hunches and intuitions of what may be, but which originally cannot be seen to prove it can exist.

The main difference is sight is more connected the ego and the conscious mind, while the inner vision and intuition is the gateway to the inner self and the unconscious mind. Religion teaches one to tap into this higher human potential, that is beyond what can be easily seen by all. Religion also allows a way, that is resource light, so all can develop their full potential.

[hamdani yusuf]

Magic makes use of the sense of sight.

Not necessarily. I've learned a close range magic which relies on touch. But it only works for a small number of audiences.
Visual demonstration of magic has advantage of ability to serve a lot of audiences at once.

[hamdani yusuf]

If you consider applied science, such as engineering, one often has to create or innovate things that are not yet in existence. One cannot use sight, since it does not yet exist. Instead, you take the religious approach of hunches and intuitions blended with experience. Like a little god, you try to go beyond nature to something never seen in nature. After it works, and others can see it, then they jump on the band wagon and call the final product science. But we only got there; eureka, based on hunches and intuitions of what may be, but which originally cannot be seen to prove it can exist.

Alternatively, we can use some trial and error to gather more data, and then recognize the patterns that show up to develop a representative model of the system we are trying to build or understand.

[Bored chemist]

For example, nobody has proven that dark energy or dark matter exists.

Yes they have.

Darwinism uses the same approach, since it cannot be used to make accurate predictions,

Yes it can.

Why do you keep posting your wrong opinions as if they are facts?

[Bored chemist]

The main difference is sight is more connected the ego and the conscious mind, while the inner vision and intuition is the gateway to the inner self and the unconscious mind.

That's getting quite close to insulting all teh blind people in the world.

[alancalverd]

I do not have any source in which the magician himself  tell its reason .

Professional conjurers (I despise the term magician) have a worldwide trade-union-cum-learned-society, The Magic Circle. Members are sworn to secrecy. This can make life difficult: I was invited to invest in developing an excellent new illusion but refused because the inventor wouldn't disclose the mechanism even to his business associates.

Fifty years on, I'm still baffled by a trick Robert Harbin performed at a student gig. He said he had memorised every word in a novel. He passed the book around the audience, turned his back, and said "stop", then asked for a volunteer to come on the stage, where she was blindfolded. Next, he asked members of the audience to call out three numbers, say A, B. C.  He told the woman holding the book to turn to page A line B word C, then asked the blindfolded volunteer "what is that word?" She answered correctly. I spoke to both women afterwards. Both freshers who hadn't met, had never seen Harbin before, and were clearly disturbed by the trick. The blindfolded "volunteer" (she had been sitting next to me and I persuaded her to do it) said "The word just came into my head and I couldn't think of anything else".

There are a few TV films of Harbin at work with mechanical illusions and sleight of hand, but I've never seen anything to compare with that live performance.