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Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 06/03/2009 16:55:57
ok i KNOW ive heard this sum where but to lazy ta google it lol

instead of looking for all these alternative fuels and polution solvers, y not just revert everything to magnetism??

the way i seem to think is we cover all roads with magnetic strips and make a car that also has a magnet on the bottom. the two magnets repel each other causeing it to float and move. kinda like the trains at Disney world or sumthin. no fuel wud b required all the car would need is a small battery to work lights, radio, tv, air, etc. and y not have it so u can just plug it in at home to charge it? A LOT less pollution (besides electricty making of course) we would spend less money making the car because it could be lighter not requieing a motor wheel axels etc. another good example would be crime...in a car chase there could be a way for police to cancel the magnets on that stretch of road making the suspects car inmobile.
another good factor to this idea is that we can cover roads with grass, flowers or whatever seeing as the magnets will work thru it. this is obviously good for the environment.

Now i havent thought of everthing but some smaller details would be like to get on to a road the driver could use electricy to drive him out of the garage onto the road and then slowly uncover the magnets(electronically) and just drive away. and to land or whatever the driver could SLOWLY cover the magnets to slowly lower to the ground.
now obviously there are some drawbacks as with every idea. first i dont know how much magnetic rocks there are in the world and it would be extremely costly to laydown magnets on roads and cover them with vegitation. and im pretty sure car companies would find some reason to make the magnecars(thats wat ill call themm) expensive but i feel in the long run we are really saving our hides. cause with magnets they dont really "run out" so it would be rare to have to replace them. the magnecars could just keep being re-selled when one person is done. or if the owner of an older model of a magnecar wanted a new model but couldnt sell theirs they could just bring to a factory sorta place that buys magnecars. this factory could take the magnecars old magnets and sell them back to a magnecar company which would use the magnets on a new model. (yea ive thought this one out =D)

obviously i dont know a lot about how these would work like how a person would turn is still a major factor.
a new thought just came to me. as for models of this magnecar there could be like trucks, vans, and sports etc. for trucks there would be a very strong magnetic force on it to be able to lift loads etc, minivans would have a little less magnestism but still enough to hold how evermany passengers it was made for plus storage etc.

I feel this could be a final transportation answer idk it just sorta sells itself ya no?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 06/03/2009 17:29:13
Erm...... I am at a loss!!!

You really haven't thought this out at all. The whole concept is flawed from start to finish.

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I feel this could be a final transportation answer idk it just sorta sells itself ya no?
NO!!!
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 06/03/2009 17:30:19
what dont u understand i thought i explained it pretty good...?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Karsten on 06/03/2009 20:00:49
It may float if on a track but how would it move forward? What energy does it use to move?

Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 06/03/2009 21:33:01
Please don't tell me to get out and push? [:)]
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: lyner on 06/03/2009 23:26:35
It may float if on a track but how would it move forward? What energy does it use to move?


More to the point, how would you get it to go uphill? You've reduced friction with your method but roads are not horizontal, are they?
There is also the problem with Maglev that you need to control the thing - it doesn't work just with permanent magnets (for large loads).
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Pumblechook on 07/03/2009 14:30:42
A experimental German Maglev train uses about twice the energy per weight as a French TGV.
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 07/03/2009 14:44:09
1) The magnetic tracks will become choked with scrap metal in no time at all.
2) The magnetic car will also pick up scrap metal.
3) As said, you have no means of propulsion.
4) With no ground contact you will need thrust propulsion. Jet engines or propellers at ground level would be homicidal.
5) How do you keep the car in line with its direction of travel? A dirty great tail plane?
6) How do you steer? A dirty great rudder attached to the dirty great tail plane.
7) Cornering will need a vast amount of space.
8) How do you stop? Sling out an anchor? (But that will become stuck to the car's magnet.)

I could go on & on & on......
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: lyner on 08/03/2009 19:20:45
So . . . .  that would be a "no", then?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 09/03/2009 03:16:50
But tony6789 was sooo convinced!
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 09/03/2009 15:42:18
But tony6789 was sooo convinced!
no ima win this arument watch lol


theres plenty of possible ways for movment(u just gotta stop thinking of traditional methods and look outside of the box or even at the obvious solutions) u cud use fans like a fanboat, there could be a rolling magenet wear magnets in front pull you forward depending on how fast ur magnets on ur car were set to. were talking a much lighter car im sure theres a way to move it with all the Tech. there is

scrap metal hmmm thas tough well i really dont just see much scrap metal laying around (thats just me) but im sure in parts of the roads there are but the only real answer i have for that one is a speacial car made to drive around and pick up this scrap metal 24/7 kinda lyk a street sweeper ya no?

i explained how ta stop....



im still tryin ta figure out turning thats still a problem gotta give meh a little bit of time lol
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: lyner on 09/03/2009 22:16:54
So, basically, NO answers, then?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 10/03/2009 03:16:37
instead of looking for all these alternative fuels and polution solvers, y not just revert everything to magnetism??
Polution solver? [:)]
It'll look like a bloody big scrap yard!
Also a very very very important thing, people walking on the side of the road with anything metallic on their bodies might just suddenly find themselves in the middle of the road! [:0]
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 10/03/2009 08:20:09
...in a car chase there could be a way for police to cancel the magnets on that stretch of road making the suspects car inmobile.

Do you not think that it might also make the police car immobile?

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...we can cover roads with grass, flowers or whatever seeing as the magnets will work thru it. this is obviously good for the environment.

You need well draining soil for this, a dirty great lump of metal under the surface would cause waterlogging when raining and it would dry out in no time when warm & sunny.

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...and to land or whatever the driver could SLOWLY cover the magnets to slowly lower to the ground.

And in an emergency??? Sling the anchor out or cover the magnets fast and drop instantly to the ground at maybe 80kph or more. Still, one plus point here, the car would at least bury itself saving on funeral costs.

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there could be like trucks, vans,
How strong do you think the magnet would need to be to lift a 42 ton truck and what happens after it has been unloaded and weighs only 20 tons?

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u cud use fans like a fanboat

These propellers are enormous. The back-draught from 100's of these would blow every pedestrian off their feet, that is those who haven't been stuck to the road or a car because they had a bunch of the keys in their pocket, as in C4M's scenario.

My advice, forget it, it's a non-starter.
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 10/03/2009 08:23:45
So what have you got now tony6789? [:)]
Is there any way to scrap your way out of this? [:)]
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 11/03/2009 19:51:57
What form of propulsion is used by a monorail maglev? I was under the impression they were frictionless (as near as damn it) until it came to braking.
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: lyner on 11/03/2009 22:55:38
You also need to accelerate them~~~~?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 12/03/2009 09:27:40
Linea induction is used to propel the Maglev. All very well on a track where the trains are all going in a straight line and in the same direction.

No good for Bert who want's to pop down to B & Q for new screwdriver.
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 12/03/2009 09:29:16
Whose Bert?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 12/03/2009 09:37:19
Whose Bert?

This is Bert:

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grimmemennesker.dk%2Fdata%2Fmedia%2F1%2Fflexible-face.jpg&hash=cee6a118d962051a854a507e328fb249)

Almost as good looking as me!
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: lyner on 12/03/2009 10:32:37
Who's a pretty boy then?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 17/03/2009 14:20:22
ugh am i getting no bak up here? lol
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Chemistry4me on 18/03/2009 05:25:37
ok i KNOW ive heard this sum where but to lazy ta google it lol
Why don't you actually Google it and try and find it?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 18/03/2009 14:17:05
mostly because i like to post things like this here to get a more "humanized answer" if u understand what i mean. i get answers that dont sound like a text book. and because it gives u and others something to think about ya no?
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: Don_1 on 18/03/2009 16:01:43
We thought, not for long, we didn't like it and we said so.
Title: The new answer to car problems(its just obvious)
Post by: tony6789 on 19/03/2009 14:13:57
ok ok i get it ill try to be more smart