[Hayseed]

SOL is our sun.   I thought your question was how does handedness affect charge. So, I explained it to you.   Only electron and protons are needed for the periodic table.  Nothing else.

Mathematical inventions are not needed.  If you would like a real eye opener, study the history of this modern physics.  Lot's of bad juju has been carried thru.

I didn't think many would follow that particle explanation thru.  I have an experiment to show intermittent light.  I have an idea for a clock that is immune to space-time.   I have a rotating cap plate experiment too.   But everyone seems the know the outcomes, without doing the experiment.

So, that's where we are.  One can believe in space-time.......or one can believe in simple perfection.

[puppypower]

Note: This topic was split off from: https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=81590.0 Did the universe begin life inside a black hole? - moderator.

If the Universe was inside a black hole, it was the black hole itself, whatever a black hole is.

My two cents theory:

All black holes inside the Universe are rotating. In a black hole, matter is organized in a very simplified way, information is conserved in an equivalent of folding. There is matter, which is spacetime itself, from the inner horizon up to the outer horizon. Only when all the Universe forms a single black hole, the inner horizon vanishes The black hole stops rotating and we get a singularity of the Higgs field. There is no singularity of the EM field nor of the gravitational field. Every bit of information is its own center and its singularity, and it is connected with every other bits of the Universe in a kind of causal set, only once with the EM field and also only once with the gravitational field. The Higgs field produces a flat space with a finite horizon but your horizon is unreachable because it moves with you while it is expanding or contracting. Asymmetries are the fundamentals. There is an unstable quasi-static black hole at both ends. Time has only one direction.

Inflation doesn't need a special energy, it is caused by the gravitational blue shift of massive particles vs the expansion of the surrounding vacuum energy in an early phase. The speed of light is constant everywhere. Time is absolute but the passage of time is relative. This is the wavelength which changes. You must take account of the expanding horizon to solve special relativity.

Elementary particles are spinors of EM spacetime intersecting the gravitational spacetime. All elementary particles have an electric charge, including the neutrinos. Neutrinos wavelength oscillates near more massive particles and they only interact at three specific wavelengths (the value of the electric charge oscillates and they become virtually interactionless). The electron tunnel effect is the same mechanism... Dirac wins.

The expansion may be represented by a lagging gravitational field behind the EM field. Matter is positively charged when highly compressed because the electron wavelength is longer than those of the proton constituents. As the Universe is cyclical, you need a negatively charged counterpart which should have its own Higgs. This counterpart is also related to the second and third families of particles through the W and Z bosons. This is Dark Matter. Dark matter only interacts with ordinary matter in the EM spacetime field near the static black hole. The Higgs produces all elementary particles. This is the basic quantization number. Its mass = proton mass divided by the fine structure constant with corrections due to the W and Z. The neutrinos are key parts to understand.

There could be two families of Dark matter with two beautiful Higgs particles. Unfortunately, they are only observables through gravity... In the contrary, why would the second and third families be unstable? At what point the second and third families become stable bits of information and why? Where the multiple Higgs meet each other.

Every time an experiment verifies entanglement relations it is also a demonstration of the Higgs field. Remember that the Higgs field is faster than light, which means it is a synchronization field, not an energy field. All particles of the Universe are entangled (at least for each individual type of matter-DM) in a complex quantized relation, which means detectors are a key part of the solution.

The volume of the Universe is proportional to the number of particles in it. If there is no new particle produced, the Universe collapse. This includes gravitons, that's why it is the volume and not the surface... The Universe must reach a maximum size because there are no infinities...!!!

Gluons are gravitons. A graviton is made of two gluons because it is a dual relation.

Ok a gravaton isn't 2 gluons. We've only seen the waves not the particles as such.  Gravaton is simply an energy wave on space, causing a ripple in the space, they are called gravity waves, but that's only because some want to link them to gravity. There is no definite reason to do so.

The more energy changes the colour of the gravaton, blue gravaton is high energy, red gravaton low energy. But they are just energy ripples in space and disappear as the energy disappears. Like dropping a stone in water, the ripples are an expression of the energy from the stone.

A sun exploding for example will cause a gravity wave, but its just the energy causing a wave in space as it passes through it.

Not gravity, it's not space its energy affecting the space it travels over.

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Black holes are not holes. They are suns that dont produce light. Black hole suns. Giant masses that grow as more matter travels into their event horizon, I suppose your asking if one exploded could that have been the origin of the big bang?

It would have been a huge black sun to have contained all the matter and energy we see in the universe, and it wouldn't answer the question of how it developed in the first place.

But I suppose it's an interesting idea.

Just reminded me of Einstein idea about the big crunch. That all the universe will one day come together, I suppose if galaxies started to merge their blacks suns would mere, and as each galaxy did so the black sun at the center would get bigger and bigger, then in the end, after all the galaxies had come together there would just be one giant black sun containing everything. If that exploded we'd start again.

Explosion retraction, explosion retraction, a fixed cycle.

The problem with the big crunch is connected to entropy. The second law states that the entropy of the universe has to increase. Since an increase in entropy will absorb energy and since the second law states that the entropy of the universe has to increase over time, this means that useable energy is being permanently removed from the universe.

This unusable energy is being tied up into entropy, that has to increase over time. The net affect is there is a pool of unusable energy, that the universe is collecting, due to the second law. This energy is conserved, but not net useable by the inertial universe. I call it dead pool energy since it is energy that is dead to the universe. It was taken away, over time, by entropy.

The bottomline is the future of the universe,is not cyclic It cannot repeat the past, since the future contains less useable energy, due to the second law. It has to follow a path of diminishing energy. For example, going from a singularity to umpteen particles would increase the entropy drastically and absorb lots of energy. This is lost energy after the phase change since the entropy has to continue to increase according to the second law.

Since entropy has to increase, this absorbed energy is tied up, forever, and not part of the future of the inertial universe. This energy is conserved, but within the entropy of the universe. The dead pool energy would be analogous to the conserved memories, of previous entropic states. The dead pool energy sort of reminds me of classic religious concepts of life after death; conserved energy as the souls, ghosts and memories of the second law. 

For example, when life was created on earth, this was at a time when the useable energy of the universe was higher than today. Less time had past within the universe and the second law had not existed as long. This added energy allowed life to form. We do not see new life appearing on earth, from scratch, over and over, since that sweet spot only existed for a brief time, and then the useable energy decreased, to where it will not occur again on earth. However, within the dead pool are the lingering memories of the entropic states from which is came, and on which life continues to  build.

[Kryptid]

Only electron and protons are needed for the periodic table.  Nothing else.

The existence of isotopes refutes that idea.

Lot's of bad juju has been carried thru.

"Bad juju" would be ignoring scientific evidence, like the existence of the neutron and quarks.

I have an idea for a clock that is immune to space-time.

What does that mean, exactly?

But everyone seems the know the outcomes, without doing the experiment.

Such as?

One can believe in space-time

We don't have to "believe" in it. You and I are in different places, so space must exist. We didn't make our posts at the same moment either, so time must exist as well.

[Jolly2]

Electron and protons are EXACTLY the SAME STRUCTURE.

Not at all, actually. Protons contain three quarks, whereas electrons have no inner structure (that we know of).

Ok I'll disagree when in was speaking with a physicist recently who works with lasers, he claimed that an electron is made up of two photons, which will only combine under the right circumstances. I sadly forget the interaction involved.

[Jolly2]

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Your rambling again, I suggest rather then ramble you quote directly the thing you wish to comment on and reply directly with your point. Rambling doesnt help the discussion

[Jolly2]

More than 99% of all mass momentum(energy) is right handed.

Could you explain that statement, please?
For example, right-handed relative to what?

Maybe he is referencing spin?

  Both stripes are turning left from our view, but as they turn left, one is spinning right and one is spinning left as they turn.   A spin within a spin.  TWO accelerations.

The internal right handed spin, contracts the torus solenoid and the left handed spin expands the torus solenoid. 

Called it😊

[CPT ArkAngel (OP)]

Puppypower, the increasing entropy being a static law is a fallacy that can be easily disproved. First, the entropy is a global phenomena which is not well understood. Second, the increase in entropy being a fundamental law violates the conservation of information because it implies a creation of information from nothing. The fact that the Universe allows logical computations and that the logical parts are also a part of the Universe, indicates that there are no infinities. This is the Universe itself which does the computation. Logic doesn`t work with infinities. Mathematics using infinities just replace infinities with finite values to get a seeming logic. Infinity is not a real number and it is incomputable, therefore the entropy cannot increase forever.

The entropy increases because of the expansion, not the other way around. The second law of thermodynamics at the scale of the entire Universe is just a belief. It should not be a law! The only possible models conserving information and allowing computation are cyclical...

[CPT ArkAngel (OP)]

Hayseed, all your theories about the particles do not agree with experiments. I encourage you to learn about what actually has been measured and how before you continue in this direction. It is hopeless. It doesn`t mean our science is perfect. But I must admit group thinking leads often to fallacies...

[Kryptid]

he claimed that an electron is made up of two photons

Well, he's wrong. That would violate conservation of charge. Unless, of course, what he was saying was that a pair of photons can lead to the production of an electron-positron pair (which is true).

[Hayseed]

My comments are not my theories.  The dynamics explained, are not my dynamics.   The concepts that I encourage you to read and study are not new, not unknown, and again, can explain the periodic table with an electron and a proton.  And that those two entities, are the only physical entities in existence.   Being that these entities are the ONLY entities, one had better be able to explain the table with them and them alone.

I use the zenith of the classical model.  Parson's Magneton.    Some big time science society there in Briton thought very highly about it.  It was the answer to reality, and many thought science was over.  But, of course, you were never taught that.  There is a lot, that you were never taught.

But it would be far more valuable to all of you, for you to understand that light is intermittent, and discreet, like a strobe.......not a wave.   And it is possible to measure it's relative velocity.

[Kryptid]

can explain the periodic table with an electron and a proton.

No, they can't.

And that those two entities, are the only physical entities in existence.

Not according to scientific evidence.

Being that these entities are the ONLY entities, one had better be able to explain the table with them and them alone.

Sounds like you're begging the question.