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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: JustineH on 13/11/2007 23:08:09

Title: Chemicals
Post by: JustineH on 13/11/2007 23:08:09
How long does it take chemicals to go through your body?
Like some toxic chemical you might have inhaled.

How does it come out?  Scientific information only.... [xx(]
Title: Chemicals
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/11/2007 19:45:05
It very much depends on the chemical.
For some it's pretty quick. For others (so called cumulative poisons) it can be essentially with you 'till you die.
It also depends on what you  mean by "go through". Alcohol, for example, is largely converted to other chemicals in the body. Some of it is lost in the breath and urine but most is converted to acetic acid. Once it has been turned into acetic acid it's essentially impossible to distinguish it from the acid produced by metabolism of other foods.

The whole question is realy very complicated and the answer depends on lots of factors.
Title: Chemicals
Post by: JustineH on 14/11/2007 20:13:17
Some examples of what I mean and what happens to me:

I have chemical sensitivities to the new chemicals that have been put into shampoos.  The old Head & Shoulder I had no reaction to and used it for many years.  Then they added a chemical for whatever reason, and I can no longer use it w/o going to the ER.  The new chemical/s is not listed as an ingredient-- WHICH IS WHY I'M BITCHING ABOUT IT--  They hide it behind "fragrance".

My reaction starts with a burning tongue; then a swollen tongue; throat tight; heart palpitations; wheezing and other little things but also very very weak legs.  It's quite obvious.  It does not respond to Benadryl or anything else.  It also does not go away.  I have to go to the ER and get put on prednisone to make the inflammation subside.

I also now have reactions to flavored oils (synthetic) which is not plant or animal, but synthetic.  These oils are much much stronger than the old spices/extracts (I'd read 30X more).  I cannot tolerate them.  They are not listed as an ingredient.  So I eat the same product I did two weeks ago EXCEPT it now has a flavored oil in it.  Ditto on all the symptoms I mentioned above.

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( Justine This is the second notice about posting these links.)

It's unclear to me whether I react to EO's or FO's or both.  But I do react!  So I need to know that that chemical is in there.  Whether it be in the detergents, shampoos or foods.  They need to fess up and stop hiding these chemicals from consumers.  Because people with allergies are known to also have chemical sensitivities to some of these chemicals.



Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: kdlynn on 14/11/2007 23:21:59
ok don't get mad, but how does shampoo cause this? i'm not saying it doesn't, i just don't know how it would make your tongue swell if it doesn't touch your tongue. just trying to learn.
Title: Chemicals
Post by: JustineH on 15/11/2007 03:17:31
 [O8)]

Title: Chemicals
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/11/2007 19:59:40
"oils are much much stronger than the old spices/extracts (I'd read 30X more)."
If the oil is 30 times stronger (which is possible) then they would use 30 times less to get the same effect.
It's possible to get a contracting chemist to analyse the fragrances (better if you can get an old bottle and a new bottle so they can concentrate on what's different). The problem is the cost.
Asking the manufacturer might help.
Title: Chemicals
Post by: JustineH on 15/11/2007 20:10:27
I'm not biting.... [O8)]
Title: Chemicals
Post by: elegantlywasted on 15/11/2007 20:37:57
Why not just make your own shampoo??? That way you can control what exactly goes into it.
Title: Chemicals
Post by: JustineH on 15/11/2007 20:50:09
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Title: Chemicals
Post by: paul.fr on 15/11/2007 22:01:01
I thought random links to pdf's were also banned?