0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
That equation doesn't make sense. You can't put a physical objects like electrons and protons into an equation.
Of course not but you can create a physics formula that describes the physics without any falsities and very simple to understand instead of energy equivalents that come across as nonsense to most people .
Atoms are energy are they not ?
Quote from: Kryptid on 15/10/2021 20:31:54That equation doesn't make sense. You can't put a physical objects like electrons and protons into an equation.Of course not but you can create a physics formula that describes the physics without any falsities and very simple to understand instead of energy equivalents that come across as nonsense to most people . Everyone can understand that an atoms components are composed of Protons and Electrons and atoms have a volume . Atoms are energy are they not ? Of course you can also expand on this and do numbers if you like but this is easy to understand and also applies to quantum fields emitted by the convergence of a proton and electron . I hope that Bogey person reads this thread !
You've been told this isn't how you make an equation. Worst yet if we did entertain an equation of this sort, the dimensions are utterly wrong. It's strange as well you divide it with volume. You do this for energy density, not energy.
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 01:47:33Quote from: Kryptid on 15/10/2021 20:31:54That equation doesn't make sense. You can't put a physical objects like electrons and protons into an equation.Of course not but you can create a physics formula that describes the physics without any falsities and very simple to understand instead of energy equivalents that come across as nonsense to most people . Everyone can understand that an atoms components are composed of Protons and Electrons and atoms have a volume . Atoms are energy are they not ? Of course you can also expand on this and do numbers if you like but this is easy to understand and also applies to quantum fields emitted by the convergence of a proton and electron . I hope that Bogey person reads this thread !You've been told this isn't how you make an equation. Worst yet if we did entertain an equation of this sort, the dimensions are utterly wrong. It's strange as well you divide it with volume. You do this for energy density, not energy.
If you'd read I said you could use numbers if you like !
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 02:16:32If you'd read I said you could use numbers if you like !You can't not use numbers.
Are you trying to explain energy and mass to somebody who has interest or a student who is likely to dig up roads for a living ?Fundamental education is simpler and easier , additionally it eliminates the smarties from the dime bars .The education sector costs millions in funding , why waste valuable and expensive education on dime bars ?If they can't understand that smarties have mass and an energy equivalent , they are dime bars and need educating differently instead of stereotypical .
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 02:26:16Are you trying to explain energy and mass to somebody who has interest or a student who is likely to dig up roads for a living ?Fundamental education is simpler and easier , additionally it eliminates the smarties from the dime bars .The education sector costs millions in funding , why waste valuable and expensive education on dime bars ?If they can't understand that smarties have mass and an energy equivalent , they are dime bars and need educating differently instead of stereotypical .That doesn't stop my statement from being correct.
E==m=massV=volumet=timeE=energyThose numbers for example ?
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 02:44:42E==m=massV=volumet=timeE=energyThose numbers for example ?That's better, but it's still not correct. Mass divided by volume is not energy, nor is 1 divided by time energy.
Not correct only by incorrect understandings !
There is no physics that I am aware of that states the mass of an electron isn't proportional to the mass of a proton
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 03:05:24Not correct only by incorrect understandings !No, it just straight up isn't correct. The relationship between mass and energy is already known to be E=mc2.Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 03:05:24There is no physics that I am aware of that states the mass of an electron isn't proportional to the mass of a proton What does that even mean? The mass of the two are completely different.
That is not true , we can't measure the forces between the proton and electron , we don't know the mass .
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 03:09:39That is not true , we can't measure the forces between the proton and electron , we don't know the mass .We can measure their masses by measuring how much a beam of protons or electrons are deflected in a magnetic field.The fact that you don't know this only further shows that you ain't a physics professor.
You are claiming you can separate the atomic force and create an electron or proton beam ?
I very much doubt that and I know physics can't do this because a single pole beam would have no momentum because the specifics of the Higgs field would constraint that beams flow !
Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 03:18:52You are claiming you can separate the atomic force and create an electron or proton beam ?Yes, because it's done on a regular basis. Proton beam therapy is a cancer treatment, whereas cathode rays are made of electrons.Quote from: Black hole on 16/10/2021 03:18:52I very much doubt that and I know physics can't do this because a single pole beam would have no momentum because the specifics of the Higgs field would constraint that beams flow !Too bad, the existence of proton beam therapy and cathode rays proves you wrong. Your claim of the beams having no momentum is nonsense, as usual. Anything with energy can have momentum.
Of course we'll just ignore Newtons Third Law and Coulombs law then and forget that a Higgs field or atoms potentially have the components to push back ?
Can you please provide a link to your claims ?
You'll find that what you are suggesting are not true proton beams or electrons beams , the physics of the universe does not allow for the momentum of free electrons or protons .