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Title: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Ahad Ali Khan on 03/01/2016 16:03:21
The theory of astronomical centrifuge
It has already been established that the solar system was once a dust cloud that slowly started to rotate around its own axis and sometime after smaller bodies began to appear inside the dust cloud. If we take centrifuge into account that states that rotation causes heavier objects to move outwards and lighter inwards we can determine the materials that make up the planetary bodies of the solar system. take the cream separator as an example.
Thus we can confirm that the sun made up of hydrogen and helium and that fusion does indeed takes place there and we can determine what materials make up the planetary bodies.
Materials that make up
Sun< Mercury <Venus< Earth< Mars< Jupiter< Saturn< Uranus< Neptune.

The above mentioned phenomenon can also be used to make out what the internal layers of different planets are made of as the inner layers will have to be made up of lighter materials as compared to the outer layers. since the bodies also rotate around their own axes.

It would be appreciated if everyone commented. Your opinion will be of great value
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Ahad Ali Khan on 03/01/2016 19:06:00
The author:
Just wanted to make it clear that the materials that .... well take earth as an example. Planetary bodies that are farther from sun than earth will be made up of heavier materials than earth while those closer to sun than earth will be made up of lighter materials also earths crust should be made up of heavier materials and its crust should be made up of lighter materials.
thus it can be concluded that the materials that make up sun will be lighter than that od mercury and the materials that make up mercury will be lighter than those that make up Venus and so on
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Space Flow on 03/01/2016 23:22:11
And yet when we do the experiment to test this theory, (Observation)
we find that planets are actually arranged in almost the exact opposite order to this logical seeming hypothesis.
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Colin2B on 04/01/2016 09:11:17
.... Planetary bodies that are farther from sun than earth will be made up of heavier materials than earth while those closer to sun than earth will be made up of lighter materials
As Spaceflow points out this is not the case.
The flaw in the apparent logic is that the solar system is not a centrifuge. In a centrifuge the walls limit the outward movement of the materials, forming an artificial floor towards which materials drift  as in an artificial gravity. In the solar system each chuck of material will have a outward force created by it's attempt to move in a straight line and an inward force balancing it formed by the gravitational pull of the central massive body, the sun.

You might find this interesting http://www.seasky.org/solar-system/planet-weight-calculator.html
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Ahad Ali Khan on 04/01/2016 17:15:00
Well firstly as said above that a centrifuge needs a force that forces the materials inside. well that force could easily be provided by the sun , since it was made long before the other planets and its gravity is strong enough to....... well you know how strong it is.
Secondly the materials lightest in the middle since the sun is helium and hydrogen and they get heavier from there on and we can't be sure that certain materials are on a planet without testing them ourselves [ that is if you think this theory is baseless]. What we have here is a way to calculate what materials are on a certain planet.
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: Ahad Ali Khan on 01/07/2016 21:28:32
a centrifuge needs a spinning motion centripetal force and solitude from other objects. the solar system can be characterized as a centrifuge as it has all of the above. i am not talking about the weights of the planets bu the weights of the elements in the planets specifically. for example   


SUN- H,He
MERCURY- LI,Be,B
VENUS-C,N,O
EARTH- F,Ne,Na

we know that sun is made up of H and He so that's confirmed and the reason why Venus is so hot is because of the presence of green house gases that are made from N,C and O. case rested

Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: chiralSPO on 02/07/2016 04:39:15
a centrifuge needs a spinning motion centripetal force and solitude from other objects. the solar system can be characterized as a centrifuge as it has all of the above. i am not talking about the weights of the planets bu the weights of the elements in the planets specifically. for example   


SUN- H,He
MERCURY- LI,Be,B
VENUS-C,N,O
EARTH- F,Ne,Na

we know that sun is made up of H and He so that's confirmed and the reason why Venus is so hot is because of the presence of green house gases that are made from N,C and O. case rested



Except that the outer planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus) are mostly H2 and He.

The author:
Just wanted to make it clear that the materials that .... well take earth as an example. Planetary bodies that are farther from sun than earth will be made up of heavier materials than earth while those closer to sun than earth will be made up of lighter materials also earths crust should be made up of heavier materials and its crust should be made up of lighter materials.
thus it can be concluded that the materials that make up sun will be lighter than that od mercury and the materials that make up mercury will be lighter than those that make up Venus and so on

Except that our core is mostly iron and nickel (with some iron-soluble metals like uranium, iridium and osmium), while our crust is made of oxygen, silicon, aluminum, sodium, magnesium, carbon etc.

Both the composition of the planets based on distance from sun and the arrangement of matter within each planet is opposite what you predict.

In truth neither the solar system nor the spinning planet are very good centrifuges, and gravity dominates. The centrifuge I have in my lab is capable of generating an acceleration of >6000 g (6000 times the surface gravity of the Earth), while the spinning Earth doesn't even come close to counterbalancing 1 g (people and objects at the equator don't go flying out into space)...
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: hamdani yusuf on 02/07/2016 14:00:41
When I first read the title, I thought we would be talking about spectroscopy.
Title: Re: How to determine what materials make the bodies in the solar system
Post by: chiralSPO on 03/07/2016 02:29:58
When I first read the title, I thought we would be talking about spectroscopy.

same here :-)