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Life Sciences => Cells, Microbes & Viruses => Topic started by: benep on 06/04/2009 20:24:08

Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: benep on 06/04/2009 20:24:08
hi guys, tis been a while and i have a question to present to yall. I love maramite a lot and i mean alot:p but i was wondering, as marmite is a yeast abstract and yeast is a fungi, is it dangerous to have too much marmite? As in you could potentially get really sick, or even possibly die, will be interested to hear your answers
Title: Re: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Bored chemist on 06/04/2009 21:02:31
I am, so I'm told, the only person in the world who is pretty much indifferent to marmite. The cliche is that everyone loves it or hates it. I think it's OK, but I wouldn't go out of my way to get it.
Anyway. It has a very high salt content so eating lots of it may be a bad idea for that reason. However the fact that it's made from a yeast isn't important here.
For a start, the yeast is dead. For a finish most fungi are not particularly toxic.
Everything is potentially poisonous- enough water or oxygen will kill you.
As always, a varied, sensible diet is a good idea.
Title: Re: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Karen W. on 06/04/2009 21:47:26
Boy oh boy I am going to have to buy some online and try it... It sounds good to me too!

I thought you were presenting me with an opportunity to share a new cool picture of a new fungus my daughter took a picture of in Fern Canyon! LOL..

Hope your question is aptly answered! Nice to see you posting again Young Sir!
Title: Re: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: benep on 06/04/2009 21:57:55
I am, so I'm told, the only person in the world who is pretty much indifferent to marmite. The cliche is that everyone loves it or hates it. I think it's OK, but I wouldn't go out of my way to get it.
Anyway. It has a very high salt content so eating lots of it may be a bad idea for that reason. However the fact that it's made from a yeast isn't important here.
For a start, the yeast is dead. For a finish most fungi are not particularly toxic.
Everything is potentially poisonous- enough water or oxygen will kill you.
As always, a varied, sensible diet is a good idea.
ah thank you very much, but if they made some type of mistake and the fungi was alive could it then harm you?
Title: Re: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: benep on 06/04/2009 21:59:04
Boy oh boy I am going to have to buy some online and try it... It sounds good to me too!

I thought you were presenting me with an opportunity to share a new cool picture of a new fungus my daughter took a picture of in Fern Canyon! LOL..

Hope your question is aptly answered! Nice to see you posting again Young Sir!
you should lol, im obsessed when it comes to marmite, its nice to be back karen :)
Title: Re: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Karen W. on 06/04/2009 22:04:46
Well good Have a nice Spring Break!
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: chris on 06/04/2009 23:39:09
Hi Ben

yeasts aren't actually fungi, they're yeasts - the two are actually different. But by definition, too much of anything is bad, but yeast-based foods like Marmite are rich in B vitamins, which are important for brain function and cell division, although marmite is also high in salt, which is not good for blood pressure.

Chris
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: blakestyger on 06/04/2009 23:55:48
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Marmite, you're brown
& I love you

That's on the front of my jar, anyway. The salt content is high (about 12.5%) but you don't need to lard the stuff on - the jars of my youth had the advice on the label 'Spread thinly' and it really does taste better that way.
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: benep on 07/04/2009 14:46:10
Hi Ben

yeasts aren't actually fungi, they're yeasts - the two are actually different. But by definition, too much of anything is bad, but yeast-based foods like Marmite are rich in B vitamins, which are important for brain function and cell division, although marmite is also high in salt, which is not good for blood pressure.

Chris
i never knew it was high in vitamin B :p, thansk for your help :)
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 11/04/2009 15:40:31
Hi Ben

yeasts aren't actually fungi, they're yeasts - the two are actually different. But by definition, too much of anything is bad, but yeast-based foods like Marmite are rich in B vitamins, which are important for brain function and cell division, although marmite is also high in salt, which is not good for blood pressure.

Chris

Chris,

Are you sure yeasts don't fit within Fungi? I have them down as unicellular, asexually-reproducing members of that group. Unless they've been reclassified recently?
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: chris on 11/04/2009 22:18:41
You're right, they're part of the same group, but strictly speaking yeasts are a bit different for the reason you state - they're single cells that don't form mycelia like fungi. They can also reproduce sexually I believe.

Chris
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Phil1907 on 15/04/2009 00:04:21
Chris is full of it. 
Of course yeasts are fungi - and they are not a specific group - you can find fungi growing in the yeast morphology for each of the major groups - Ascomycetes, Basidiomycetes and Zygomycetes.  The term merely describes a morphology. 

It's presumed that any fungus can grow in the yeast morphology.  Some fungi grow readily in the yeast morphology by commmon culture procedures so for them it's a characteristic.
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: chris on 16/04/2009 23:43:18
That's me told! (10/10 for tact too; you can come again...!)

Chris
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Phil1907 on 20/04/2009 00:14:18
I suppose.  What I fail to understand is the motivation, chris.  You either knew nothing of the subject and just made it up or, knowing or not, intentionally misled.
Why would you do either?
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: chris on 20/04/2009 15:05:08
No Phil, it was a mistake; I admit it. I got confused with something else. You were right and I was wrong. That's what this forum is all about. Learning. What I strive for is an atmosphere where we can all interact and learn from each other. Of course I want the content to be right, but that's what it should be about - the facts; not insulting people, tacitly or otherwise.

That said, thanks for your input - but maybe treat me a bit more gently next time  [;)]

Chris
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Chemistry4me on 21/04/2009 04:07:53
Come on Phil1907, go steady on the poor fellow next time aye? [:)]
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: Phil1907 on 22/04/2009 00:06:45
Atmosphere where folks can make up and communicate trash?  It was not matter of being right or wrong - it was total fiction.  Could have either looked the info up yourself and expanded both your knowledge and that of ben et al. or maintained silence.
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: BenV on 22/04/2009 13:13:31
Atmosphere where folks can make up and communicate trash?  It was not matter of being right or wrong - it was total fiction.  Could have either looked the info up yourself and expanded both your knowledge and that of ben et al. or maintained silence.
Phil, Chris made a mistake, and has since apologised.  Nobody is perfect, Chris posted what he believed to be true.  There is no need for you to have this antagonistic attitude. 

Please take the hint from both this thread and Rosalind's family research thread and start being more polite in your posts.  The post in Rosalind's thread in particular was nothing short of trolling.
Title: Is too much yeast-based food a bad thing?
Post by: dentstudent on 22/04/2009 13:19:52
Ben - If you look through many of Phil's posts, many of his general responses are somewhat pejorative and condescending. For one with so few posts, that's quite some name he's made for himself!