[varsigma (OP)]

There isn't much on this site about the guy, you know, orange face, yells a lot. Yeah, him.

So currently he has four major indictments in four different states. My summary goes like this.

He is about to lose his New York real estate business--a Demolition Derby in Manhattan.

He is waiting to find out if the Supreme Court can save him from being convicted of, well, treason I guess--A Dark and Stormy Day in D.C.

He has that RICO indictment--A Rainy Night in Georgia.

And coming in last, the classified documents indictment for obstruction--a Fart in a Hurricane in Florida.

[Zer0]

What Other Choice or Option is Available?

ps - writ of cretiorari

[alancalverd]

And there's the problem. The Democrats don't have a slogan, there's no coherent opposition in the Republican party, so the incompetent criminal will get elected ahead of the incompetent criminal.

Charles III may not be the sharpest knife in the box, but at least our Head of State doesn't have his finger on any important buttons, unrepayable loans from Putin, or any pretensions to undermine democracy.

[Petrochemicals]

The usa opinion poles don't favour Biden, largley because he appears elderly compared to trump (even though trump is only 4 years younger) despite the glowing report on the economy.

[paul cotter]

Unfortunately neither candidate inspires confidence.

[alancalverd]

How on earth did the nation that elected Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Trueman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Carter and Obama end up having to choose between a drooling idiot and a bankrupt traitor? They both make George W Bush and Richard Nixon look worthy of Nobel prizes and sainthood.

[paul cotter]

Indeed Alan, it is a mind boggling question.

[Petrochemicals]

Indeed Alan, it is a mind boggling question.

I can understand the first trump presidency, it is easily attributable to Raegan, who was deriled as a holly wood actor at the beginning but who is regarded as one of the greatest Presidents the USA has had. His trail blazing tenure in the whitehouse has led to wider acceptance of celebrity polititians, Arnie being an example. This time however i do not understand trumps attraction, he is openly decrying the democratic process he is now once again trying to be a part of. Raegan went one way trump went the other.

I dont know why Raegan is held in high regard, the USSR collapsed under its own steam, managed by Gorbachev. There is the iran contra affair and various dubious dealings. The economy improved under Raegan but I have serious doubts polititians have any control over it, and as I said, Biden has a rosy looking economy to no benefit to himself.

[varsigma (OP)]

I'm something of an armchair anthropologist. My opinion of what's happening in America right now is that it's a direct consequence of the growth of an affluent middle class.

I know, I know. But the fact is this is what interferes with hierarchy. That structuring of society means only a few people get to be wealthy the rest have to work.

A middle class with spare time usually starts to criticise the elites. They begin to see that collectively they wield political power.  As the Chinese have begun to realize, this can be a problem. Give people freedom of expression and they use it. Eventually, against you and your cabal.

This is complicated by the many voices of grievance in America. America is a country of whiners. They started out whining about King George, and they haven't let that one go yet.

[paul cotter]

I think it has more to do with the loss of blue collar work and the hollowing out of that class. The disenfranchised from the rust belt are more than willing to believe Trump can turn back the clock, as many populists promise to.

[alancalverd]

His trail blazing tenure in the whitehouse has led to wider acceptance of celebrity polititians,

Not sure that Reagan was ever much of a celebrity before his presidency, but people forget his real strengths. His acting career wasn't so much illustrious as workmanlike, and was preceded by a lot of work as a competent journalist and sports commentator.

In consequence, and like Kennedy, he consulted with experts rather than arselickers, hired professional scriptwriters, delivered the words clearly, and was capable of responding  articulately to live questioning. The principal job of a head of state is to summarise and represent a competent administration, not to promote self-interest or the profits of your friends.

[Petrochemicals]

I think it has more to do with the loss of blue collar work and the hollowing out of that class.

But you can say that all the way back to the spinning jenny and the luddites.

[Bored chemist]

His trail blazing tenure in the whitehouse has led to wider acceptance of celebrity polititians,

Not sure that Reagan was ever much of a celebrity before his presidency, but people forget his real strengths. His acting career wasn't so much illustrious as workmanlike, and was preceded by a lot of work as a competent journalist and sports commentator.

In consequence, and like Kennedy, he consulted with experts rather than arselickers, hired professional scriptwriters, delivered the words clearly, and was capable of responding  articulately to live questioning. ...

My recollection of Reagan was more along these lines.

[alancalverd]

Fortunately his real scriptwriters were rather better than that, and his delivery was reasonably convincing.

[paul cotter]

While I would disagree with many of his policies I consider Reagan to have been a competent president.

[varsigma (OP)]

I don't know that one of Trump's legal problems (or, actually any of them) will be resolved should the Supreme Court decide that he has immunity from prosecution.

That would be despite any criminal liabilty and would have to apply to the sitting president. That the SC would rule in this way would be quite the shock to the system--a real kick in the head--since then, Joe Biden would get a licence to do whatever he likes.

So why not declare, under presidential authority, that political parties are banned? Every candidate for any office must be an independent. Then he orders the arrest of all Republicans under the pretext that they are members of an illegal political group. He sends Donald and his family to Gitmo. And so on.

With full immunity from prosecution. Unless the SC decides that Trump is the only man on the planet who can be trusted with it . . .

More popcorn please, miss.

[Bored chemist]

While I would disagree with many of his policies I consider Reagan to have been a competent president.

If the choice was between a rerun of him or Trump, I'd pick the dead one.

[paul cotter]

Indeed BC, I have to agree with your choice of a necro-president.

[Zer0]

" But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. "

Source -https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/#_blank

[varsigma (OP)]

It looks a lot like the plot of this movie is that Trump is now actively campaigning, not for election, but for Insurrection v 2.0. In public he's threatening to "deal with" the people who are interfering with his election chances by using the DOJ to indict him.

Like every inmate, he's innocent.