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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: thedoc on 26/10/2015 11:50:02

Title: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: thedoc on 26/10/2015 11:50:02
I recently watched an episode of Ancient Aliens, where they showed a theory to suggest that 'The Great Pyramid Of Giza' was actually used as an energy source in ancient times.

The theory suggests that they poured hydrated zinc and diluted hydrochloric acid (separately) down two chambers on either side of the pyramid, to meet in the centre of the pyramid which then causes a combustion; Then that process is mixed with some type of vibration from beneath the pyramid

To produce some sort of harnessed energy event that shoots beams of this 'harnassed energy' out of the chambers in the side of the pyramids.

This particular theory has intrigued me and I would like to know if this is actually scientifically possible, and if so, what would these beams of 'harnassed energy' actually do and be used for? I would also like to know if this process has been experimented with by humans at all?

Although I've already learnt so much, I still have alot to learn about the scientific world as I have only just started my journey. Therefore I hope you can actually make sense of what I've written & can give me atleast a partial answer as to whether or not this theory is possible. I look forward to a response.
 
What do you think?
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: Bill S on 26/10/2015 13:28:38
It's over 30 years since I did any chemistry, but the only products I recall from mixing HCL with Zn were hydrogen gas, with a residue of zinc chloride.
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: chiralSPO on 26/10/2015 14:40:15
Unfortunately, I don't think you can believe much of what they say on "ancient aliens"

As Bill stated, mixing hydrochloric acid and zinc releases hydrogen gas, which could potentially be burned, but wouldn't come close to producing "beams of energy" or any sort.

I don't know what sort of evidence there is of this, but I am unaware of hydrochloric acid being used before Jabir ibn Hayyan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabir_ibn_Hayyan), who described producing and experimenting with hydrochloric acid 1200 years ago (among many other fundamental discoveries--really check this guy out!). But the pyramids at Giza are over 4500 years old!! It is not impossible that the Egyptians knew of hydrochloric acid back then (they certainly had some knowledge of metallurgy, dyes, etc.), and the word "alchemy," which is what Jabir ibn Hayyan was doing, comes from "al chemia", which meant "from Egypt."
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: RD on 26/10/2015 17:57:49
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Giza_pyramids#Power_station_"theory" (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Giza_pyramids#Power_station_.22theory.22)
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: alancalverd on 26/10/2015 21:18:23
Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?

no
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: PmbPhy on 27/10/2015 00:27:30

I've got a few questions that hopefully you might be able to help me to answer..I recently watched an episode of Ancient Aliens, where they showed a theory to suggest that 'The Great Pyramid Of Geaza' was actually used as an energy source in ancient times.The theory suggests that they poured hydrated zinc & diluted hydrochloric acid (separately) down two chambers on either side of the pyramid, to meet in the centre of the pyramid which then causes a combustion; Then that process is mixed with some type of vibration from beneath the pyramid -
To produce some sort of harnessed energy event that shoots beams of this 'harnassed energy' out of the chambers in the side of the pyramids.
This particular theory has intrigued me and I would like to know if this is actually scientifically possible, and if so, what would these beams of 'harnassed energy' actually do and be used for? I would also like to know if this process has been experimented with by humans at all?Although I've already learnt so much, I still have alot to learn about the scientific world as I have only just started my journey. Therefore I hope you can actually make sense of what I've written & can give me atleast a partial answer as to whether or not this theory is possible. I look forward to a response. 
 
What do you think?
As explained above, it's all poppycock.
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: syhprum on 27/10/2015 04:57:32
If one was to dismantle the pyramid it would be possible to recover some of the energy expended in lifting the stone blocks of which it is constructed.
I can think of many better sources of energy !
Title: Re: Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?
Post by: evan_au on 27/10/2015 09:24:19
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Is it possible to harness energy from an ancient pyramid?

You could push it off a cliff (or drop it into the Mediterranean).

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hydrated zinc & diluted hydrochloric acid... which then causes a combustion ...To produce some sort of harnessed energy

Hydrogen certainly could produce combustion, and I guess you could call hydrogen "harnessed energy"; there are plenty of researchers working on hydrogen cars and hydrogen fuel cells.

But would be another reaction going on here. The bulk of the pyramids at Giza are made from limestone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza#Materials) (Calcium Carbonate). The product of hydrochloric acid and limestone is inert carbon dioxide, commonly used as a fire extinguisher.

The effects of hydrochloric acid would be to carve gullies through the limestone of the pyramids, which we don't see.

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The theory suggests that they poured hydrated zinc & diluted hydrochloric acid (separately) down two chambers on either side of the pyramid...

There are no known treasures left in the pyramids - they are an unmissable target for grave robbers. But if the better-hidden tombs in the Valley of the Kings are any guide, there were treasures stored with the king's mummified body, for him to use in the afterlife. Also significant artworks extolling the virtues of the king.

So even if they did have a good supply of hydrochloric acid (it is a component of stomach acid...), the king would not approve of it being used on his carefully preserved body and possessions, all ready for the afterlife.