[DanielB (OP)]

(Claps)  wow you learned a new word "troll"  I was wondering when you were going to reach back into your bag of knowledge and pull out a new word. 


Your still out of your mind  LMAO,, Do you really think,, billion and billions of galaxies,, and trillions and trillions of star,, just exist in spacetime?  Oh,, I know someone who doesnt' have a clue what spacetime really is. 

HA HA HA HA,, omg,, you crack me up,,  No control,, No order,, just washing around,, in spacetime,, like its,, just nothing.

Pmb,, your suppose to be a 53yr old grown up,, what other word have you learned to call others?  Because,, you really have no clue of Universal construction,, and it's very apparent,, never looked past what another told you.

You and me are done speaking,, I am bored with your name calling,, and lack of your ability to do something other than insult.



Because,, your mind on theories,, is just totally lost,, and clueless.   You haven't had your own thought your entire life time,, is,, and has been a waste,,,,  And always will be.     You dont have the common sense to look and search for yourself,, and I have noticed, you try to belittle,, everyone ,, who speaks on here.

 

Run along,, grow a idea of your own,, But,, I got to tell you,, I havent broken a scientific law ,,,, And you cannot comprehend,, that gravity,, still is a THEORY.  But I will gladly listen,, if you can tell me how and what gravity is?  Oh,, that's right,, you don't honestly know,, any of it.

Class is dismissed for you Pmb.   

[DanielB (OP)]

And Pmb,  You come on a thread of discussion,, of new ideas,, possibilities,, that do not break scientific law,, and you say it's wrong,, And that you dont need to prove anything, to anyone.   (gee I wonder why)

Pmb, it was nice speaking with you,,,,, Please do not contact, write, or express your (lack of idea, or explanation on anything I post,  having a supposed grown man of 53 years of age,, calling me names, like a 3 year old,is really, laughable.   

With Kind regards
DanielB

[Pmb]

And Pmb,  You come on a thread of discussion,, of new ideas,, possibilities,, that do not break scientific law,, and you say it's wrong,,

No. I show you and explain what's wrong. But you don't understand physics well enough to understand the explanation so you insult me. I've placed you in my ignore list so I don't see the garbage and childish insults you toss out when I prove you wrong. If you were willing to learn then you'd have a place here but since you're not willing to learn then that will never happen.

And since you aren't worth thinking about you never had to worry about me contacting you again.

Grow up.

[DanielB (OP)]

1.  You never once showed me,, anything on this thread,, Not one time.   You did post a couple of links two post back.  But,, not one thought from Your mind or ideas.  You only have the ideas of others. 

Again,, you have absolutely no conception of what space time is.   

And sure as heck do not understand gravity,, and how they work as one.

Spacetime holds,, everything in place.  Otherwise there would be no order to creation,, just everything hitting each other.   

You called me a Flamer, You called me a troll,, You called me a idiot,, and start insulting me, from your first post. 

You have made claims I wasn't answering your questions,, because you were in a totally different forum.   I explained when you questioned,, and No pmb,, you have shown me nothing,, not once,, reread everything you wrote here.    Not ONCE, did you do anything other than post this. 

I have nothing to prove to ignorant trolls like you. And if you wanted to see what I know then search the forum. I won't discuss anything like you. You don't understand physics well enough to be able to understand what I'd be writing.

For example: You don't demonstrate enough knowledge to know what is contained here
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/sr/sr.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/gr/gr.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/math_phy/math_phy.htm

Now, go away troll.

And Pmb,  You come on a thread of discussion,, of new ideas,, possibilities,, that do not break scientific law,, and you say it's wrong,,

No. I show you and explain what's wrong. But you don't understand physics well enough to understand the explanation so you insult me. I've placed you in my ignore list so I don't see the garbage and childish insults you toss out when I prove you wrong. If you were willing to learn then you'd have a place here but since you're not willing to learn then that will never happen.

And since you aren't worth thinking about you never had to worry about me contacting you again.

Grow up.

 

Ok,, yet again you contradict yourself,,,, You are lacking Sir. 

When you realize space time holds up everything,, the Stellar Super structures,, galaxies up on galaxies,, they are not racing around colliding,, they are creating,, there is a natural order to it.  It has properties,, consistant with fluid motion,, and wind.    Do you think space is really a nothingness?  Everything is born within it,, gravity, it, gravity responds to it,, and its behavior is controlled by it. 

The concept of spacetime being something with matter and substance to you,, leaves you automatically assuming its just wrong.   

Yet if you take water,, mix in a kool aid,, the kool aid disperses,, and as long as its turned,, stays mixed.  I see the Universe in the sort of the same manner,,,   But that mixing action,, would mean,, the Universe would have a gravity of it's own,, And if were are in the mixing pot,, of the Universe,, which I believe we are.   We are inside of Universal gravity,, aka spacetime.  I just happen to see it as a very weak thin force ,, but due to over all size,, making it extremely strong.   

My vision of it,, differs from yours, and yet in my thoughts and idea's of the Universe,, not once have I broke a law of Physics,, just perhaps,, a few theories, you have,, I just tweeked them a bit, to relay to the true cause and effect they are having, see cause and effect are true pure physics of everything in existence, including our Universe, which mean's spacetime itself.

Example,  https://www.google.com/search?q=cats+eye+nebula&rlz=1C1EODB_enUS558US558&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jr5BU_DsNYHesAT3l4KABA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=675#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=-wN5qUyabE-jfM%253A%3BHL6AkUGVrp1yJM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fnew-universe.org%252Fzenphoto%252Falbums%252FChapter3%252FIllustrations%252FAbrams28.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fnew-universe.org%252Fzenphoto%252FChapter3%252FIllustrations%252FAbrams28.jpg.php%3B1350%3B730   

Cat's eye nebula's,, and with all nebula's,, they to me look like a  energetic event in their creation,, poles can be seen,, direction of movement,, and with all forces,, in spacetime.   Almost as if its exploded in a plasma,,giving its shape,, other wise, even on the over all scale size of them,, would have a distorted look if something wasn't allowing them to expand as fast as the force seems to indicate that it would have been.  giving a rate to it as it were.  But anyway ,



 You have a great life,, and no,, I do not care to speak to you again,, or have you on a discussion that I am having.  Good day sir.

[DanielB (OP)]

Cause and Effect

Cause: Gravitational Lensing.

Effect:  Light refraction around Mass. 

Why?   

General Relativity, according to Einstein.  Allows for light to bend around gravitational fields giving a mirror effect.  Yet,, if this were the case,, you should be able to have the same exact view over the Northern and Southern poles.

There is a distortion over north and southern poles.  This would happen only if spacetime would be pressing against the gravitational field in my mind.   So it's then when I look at the model of the earth,, and put the slight depression in the north and sourthern pole that space time pressure would have,, in it's displacement.  The reason I say displacement is due to the fact, it's surrounding every part of our earth and field.  We are submerged in it,, not sitting on it. 

That would not only hold us steady in the orbit,, due to a different pressure over our north and south poles,, but would also explain why we are held in such a precise orbit.     Just like our moon,, when a object hits a free floating mass in orbit,, that energy would be transformed,, and passed.   Yet we havent seen any planet no matter how hard they have been hit by what we know today,, Streaking across space.  And hubble has taken some pretty good pics.   

Hence me seeing cause and effect, of space time on how gravity is,, does,, and holds,,   Why gravitational lensing seems to only work at the sides of objects.  Otherwise, there would be a 360 view around gravitational lensing.

[JP]

Pmb, DanielB: You're both violating the forum rules, one of which is "keep it friendly."

Daniel, you'll also note that we prohibit posting content here that is posted elsewhere on the web.  As you also posted this to Dr. Michio Kaku's facebook page, posting the content here is in violation of the forum rules. 

I'm locking this thread while the moderators discuss this further.  Please take the time to review the forum rules.