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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #20 on: 06/06/2021 10:26:44 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 01:05:53
You seem incapable of parsing sentences.
You don't have any evidence to support that rather silly claim.
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."

In a half-hour video about the emails which prove he is a liar, that should be easy enough to do.



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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #21 on: 06/06/2021 10:29:22 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 00:18:56
You accused me of calling you a troll when I didn't.
I accept that you seem to have called yourself a troll, rather than me and I apologise for that misunderstanding.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #22 on: 06/06/2021 10:33:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 10:29:22
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 00:18:56
You accused me of calling you a troll when I didn't.
I accept that you seem to have called yourself a troll, rather than me and I apologise for that misunderstanding.

And there it is. Character assassination. You are good at that, aren't you.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #23 on: 06/06/2021 10:35:17 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 10:33:23
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 10:29:22
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 00:18:56
You accused me of calling you a troll when I didn't.
I accept that you seem to have called yourself a troll, rather than me and I apologise for that misunderstanding.

And there it is. Character assassination. You are good at that, aren't you.
You forgot to answer the real point.

Rather good at that, aren't you.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #24 on: 06/06/2021 10:59:59 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 10:35:17
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 10:33:23
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 10:29:22
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 00:18:56
You accused me of calling you a troll when I didn't.
I accept that you seem to have called yourself a troll, rather than me and I apologise for that misunderstanding.

And there it is. Character assassination. You are good at that, aren't you.
You forgot to answer the real point.

Rather good at that, aren't you.

Let's have this out in the open. How long have you considered me a troll? Don't just dodge the question.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #25 on: 06/06/2021 11:16:50 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 10:59:59
How long have you considered me a troll?
I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it in this thread.

Now...


Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 10:59:59
Don't just dodge the question.

What does the video say?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 10:26:44
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #26 on: 06/06/2021 11:22:37 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 11:16:50
I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it in this thread.

So why insinuate it?
« Last Edit: 06/06/2021 11:46:50 by jeffreyH »
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #27 on: 06/06/2021 11:35:09 »
No.
It really is your turn to answer the question.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 11:16:50
What does the video say?

Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:26:44
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #28 on: 06/06/2021 11:45:35 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 11:35:09
No.
It really is your turn to answer the question.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 11:16:50
What does the video say?

Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:26:44
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."


I'm ignoring your deflection tactics.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #29 on: 06/06/2021 11:48:12 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 11:22:37
So why insinuate it

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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #30 on: 06/06/2021 12:59:16 »
You post a video.
I ask what it shows.
You start talking about trolling.
I repeatedly ask what is in the video.
You keep talking about trolling and ask about it.
I answer.
I ask  about the video again.
You tell me that's a diversion tactic.

So, guess what I'm going to do next...


Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 11:35:09
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 11:16:50
What does the video say?

Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:26:44
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #31 on: 06/06/2021 13:45:39 »
You could answer "I didn't insinuate you are a troll". Now why don't you do that?
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #32 on: 06/06/2021 14:00:12 »
You could answer "
Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/06/2021 12:25:39
What does the video actually say?


since I asked first.

Though the answer is easy enough.
I called you out for not actually telling us what your thread was about.
You posted a video with a big banner saying "Fauci lies revealed in emails".

Since then I have been trying to get to to say if the video actually shows "what it says on the tin".
You have yet to actually answer.

Then you said "
Quote from: jeffreyH on 05/06/2021 12:22:34
Yeah, chase trolls around the forum.
Now, among the things internet trolls do is post provocative videos (or other content) then fail to engage with any discussion about them.

You raised the issue of trolling.
And you have steadfastly refused to say whether or  not the video actually does what it says.

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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #33 on: 06/06/2021 14:19:08 »
What is the name of this board? I'm sure you can answer that.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #34 on: 06/06/2021 14:27:12 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 11:45:35
I'm ignoring your deflection tactics.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #35 on: 06/06/2021 14:28:59 »
Since J H is refusing to answer the question, can anyone else tell me if the video actually contains evidence of an email which shows that Fauci is a liar?

Please don't bother telling me that I could watch the video.
Obviously I know that, just humour me and answer the question
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #36 on: 06/06/2021 14:35:04 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 14:19:08
What is the name of this board? I'm sure you can answer that.
You seem to think it's the "TNS posting a video then, by refusing to answer simple questions, failing to take part in discussion" forum
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #37 on: 06/06/2021 18:21:19 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 06/06/2021 04:35:00
Basically what's happening in the video is Jimmy Dore going back and forth comparing statements that Fauci has made publicly with content from his E-mails. Included are statements about his stance on masks, asymptomatic spread, a possible lab leak of the virus, whether or not he has been blocked from making particular statements, and his talks with Bill Gates about a global vaccination effort. Dore claimed that Fauci lied by pointing out contradictions between his E-mails and his public statements.

To be honest, I wasn't able to read the text that was posted very well so I'm not sure how true it was. However, one particular thing I did notice was that Dore said that Fauci lied because he claimed publicly that we didn't know that 50% of infections were asymptomatic whereas he was shown to talk about asymptomatic infections much earlier in one E-mail. The thing is, Fauci didn't say in the E-mail how many infections were asymptomatic, only that there would be some. So I don't count that particular one as a lie.

Wow B.C. your eyes need testing.
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Re: Is Jimmy Dore a conspiracy theorist?
« Reply #38 on: 06/06/2021 19:31:24 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 06/06/2021 18:21:19
Quote from: Kryptid on 06/06/2021 04:35:00
Basically what's happening in the video is Jimmy Dore going back and forth comparing statements that Fauci has made publicly with content from his E-mails. Included are statements about his stance on masks, asymptomatic spread, a possible lab leak of the virus, whether or not he has been blocked from making particular statements, and his talks with Bill Gates about a global vaccination effort. Dore claimed that Fauci lied by pointing out contradictions between his E-mails and his public statements.

To be honest, I wasn't able to read the text that was posted very well so I'm not sure how true it was. However, one particular thing I did notice was that Dore said that Fauci lied because he claimed publicly that we didn't know that 50% of infections were asymptomatic whereas he was shown to talk about asymptomatic infections much earlier in one E-mail. The thing is, Fauci didn't say in the E-mail how many infections were asymptomatic, only that there would be some. So I don't count that particular one as a lie.

Wow B.C. your eyes need testing.
I didn't say that Kryptid thought it was the "don't answer questions" forum, I said you seem to think it is.

I see you are still not actually answering.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 12:59:16
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 11:35:09
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 11:16:50
What does the video say?

Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:26:44
I'm not asking you to transcribe the whole video or anything like that.

I'm just asking for something like this...
" x minutes into the video they show an email from F to ... whoever...  saying ... whatever....
That statement is false  and he should have known that at the time, so he is a liar."
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