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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 22/12/2020 14:12:41 »
The experiment was performed.
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New Theories / Re: Is Special Relativity reciprocal?
« on: 06/09/2020 20:55:08 »
https://www.academia.edu/44028129/Special_Relativity_the_Clock_Absurdity
https://www.academia.edu/42973938/EINSTEINS_TERRIBLE_TWINS_and_Other_Tales_of_Relativistic_Woe?email_work_card=title
These papers may explain reciprocity in SR better.
https://www.academia.edu/42973938/EINSTEINS_TERRIBLE_TWINS_and_Other_Tales_of_Relativistic_Woe?email_work_card=title
These papers may explain reciprocity in SR better.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 05/09/2020 19:59:20 »
"A purely logical approach to Special Relativity" by mauro marchionni
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332863521_A_purely_logical_approach_to_Special_Relativity
Measuring the absolute speed of the Earth by mauro marchionni
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332798220_Measuring_the_speed_of_the_Earth
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332863521_A_purely_logical_approach_to_Special_Relativity
Measuring the absolute speed of the Earth by mauro marchionni
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332798220_Measuring_the_speed_of_the_Earth
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New Theories / Re: Is Special Relativity reciprocal?
« on: 13/08/2020 19:14:22 »This is Isaac Asimov's mental experiment.Reference please.
If Asimov is unfamiliar with relativity physics, I'd think him intelligent enough to consult with somebody who is before publishing something that's wrong. SR predicts the two clocks will read the same at every meeting.QuoteWhen A is preferred as the reference frame, according to SR, its clock will run at proper tempo and B's clock will fall behind.This is blatantly false. You seem to be attempting to apply an inertial relation to a non-inertial frame.
Asimov GUIDE TO SCIENCE section: Waves/ Light
In relativity we can choice any one of actors for reference frame.
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New Theories / Re: Is Special Relativity reciprocal?
« on: 13/08/2020 16:19:17 »
In their first meeting astronout A will say to B "Your clock has been lost 2 hours". Also Astronout B will answer: "Your clock has been lost 2 hours too".
In their second meeting A will say " your clock has been lost 4 hours" B will answer the same,
....
against causality.
This is Isaac Asimov's mental experiment.
When A is preferred as the reference frame; according to SR, its clock will run at proper tempo and B's clock will fall behind.
If we use B as the reference frame;, this tim,e A's clock must becöme behind. The clocks are synchronized before starting the movement. Each time in their next meeting, they will perceive the other clock's time 2.x hours behind its own clock.
The external observer sees both of their clocks equal.
Twins will see the other in the same age. Older, younger are not happened.
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New Theories / Re: Is Special Relativity reciprocal?
« on: 07/08/2020 11:06:21 »
In their first meeting astronout A will say to B "Your clock has been lost 2 hours". Also Astronout B will answer: "Your clock has been lost 2 hours too".
In their second meeting A will say " your clock has been lost 4 hours" B will answer the same,
....
against causality.
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New Theories / Re: Is Special Relativity reciprocal?
« on: 05/08/2020 21:44:05 »
Reciprocity principle works for classic and special relativity.
If we consider the twin event in space condition, A and B have their own speeds; and we may choose any one for reference frame. The relative speed will be Va + Vb.
And when they meet again, they will seem/become at the same age.
If we consider the twin event in space condition, A and B have their own speeds; and we may choose any one for reference frame. The relative speed will be Va + Vb.
And when they meet again, they will seem/become at the same age.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 03/08/2020 10:05:41 »Well, I'm still thinking of doing the experiment. Driving a laser with a 10 MHz square wave isn't trivial.
What do you think I will get if I do the experiment as I suggested.
I will have with 2 sensors - one feeding each of the 2 channels on my 'scope.
One sensor sampling the light before it's sent across the room and back (about 10 metres round trip) , and the other sampling it after it has made the trip.
Do you agree that what I should expect to get is a pair of signals, one of which is delayed WRT the other by about 30nS?
Vu = ~60 % c (according to my first study: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258810900_Light_kinematics_to_analyze_space-time )
Thereby the results of one way measuring the speed of light will be found interval 0.40 c - 1.60 c
In my opinion the distance must be 20 meters in accordance with the precision of ossiloscope.
https://www.picotech.com/library/experiment/speed-of-light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kQdJ-XJt98
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 02/08/2020 11:45:32 »
In order to label the measured speed as a relative value, it is necessary to measure the speed in one direction as in mechanical.
When the speed of light is measured as bidirectional (roundtrip) and the measured value is defined as the speed of moving away from the laboratory environment (i.e. fully relative), the analysis results in the special relativity theory.
The speed of moving away from the source of a photon can only be determined by one-way speed measurement.
However, unidirectional measurements do not give the c value.
Somebodies think they are doing SR defense by claiming that one-way measurement cannot give the speed of light. Because they hope the value c again.
However, one-way measurements give a different speed value: c +/- Vu
This result clearly reveals the basic mistake of SR.
When the speed of light is measured as bidirectional (roundtrip) and the measured value is defined as the speed of moving away from the laboratory environment (i.e. fully relative), the analysis results in the special relativity theory.
The speed of moving away from the source of a photon can only be determined by one-way speed measurement.
However, unidirectional measurements do not give the c value.
Somebodies think they are doing SR defense by claiming that one-way measurement cannot give the speed of light. Because they hope the value c again.
However, one-way measurements give a different speed value: c +/- Vu
This result clearly reveals the basic mistake of SR.
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New Theories / Re: A new interpretation for Michelson-morley experiment
« on: 28/07/2020 19:20:52 »
If we want to generate an interference of two lights like on the figure, we will get the fringes like M-M experiment's .
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New Theories / A new interpretation for Michelson-morley experiment
« on: 27/07/2020 20:44:55 »
A new interpretation or conclusion section for Michelson - Morley interferometer experiment
As known, in the interferometer, the halves of light travel in different ways due to mirrors and form fringes on an interference screen. When the test subject is light, these fringes are always formed in the same number. This experimental result wrongs up the ether hypothesis. In fact, this experiment was repeated thousands of times with high precision conditions and the this had been generally accepted.
It is possible to interpret this experiment with the Light coordinate system method * (Figure):
As can be seen in the figure, the light (photon packet) coming from a star-like light source to the observer's eye has always travelled the intermediate distance with the light velocity of c. The speed of observer is not operational. Because the intermediate distance is determined at the moment of perceiving. this is very important.
The same formation happens in the MM experiment. Both two light halves arrive to the screen with the speed c. Even if the lengths of their travelling ways are different. Naturally these two light halves are not the belonging the a / same light. There is possibility that these light halves in this experiment begin to travel in Tx and Ty moments, and already it is. Light source is open along the exp.. İf this option had been understood at the beginning, there would be no need to repeat the experiment thousands of times.
* This method is simply to examine the motion relationships of experiment actors in a common reference frame (which is LCS or space).
As known, in the interferometer, the halves of light travel in different ways due to mirrors and form fringes on an interference screen. When the test subject is light, these fringes are always formed in the same number. This experimental result wrongs up the ether hypothesis. In fact, this experiment was repeated thousands of times with high precision conditions and the this had been generally accepted.
It is possible to interpret this experiment with the Light coordinate system method * (Figure):
As can be seen in the figure, the light (photon packet) coming from a star-like light source to the observer's eye has always travelled the intermediate distance with the light velocity of c. The speed of observer is not operational. Because the intermediate distance is determined at the moment of perceiving. this is very important.
The same formation happens in the MM experiment. Both two light halves arrive to the screen with the speed c. Even if the lengths of their travelling ways are different. Naturally these two light halves are not the belonging the a / same light. There is possibility that these light halves in this experiment begin to travel in Tx and Ty moments, and already it is. Light source is open along the exp.. İf this option had been understood at the beginning, there would be no need to repeat the experiment thousands of times.
* This method is simply to examine the motion relationships of experiment actors in a common reference frame (which is LCS or space).
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 25/07/2020 13:57:51 »We are now looking for the increasing speed of the distance between a single/identified photon and its source; so, our problem is this.Not quite.
If I send a brief flash of light consisting of many photons through empty space, they all arrive at the same time.
So there is no difference between timing a single photon (which is exceptionally difficult) and timing a group of photons.They all travel at the same speed anyway.
Yes photon packet. However, if we use an analog cinema film the photon packet will draw a line on film strip. The first and last point of this line represent a single or identified photon.
For video film, we can use a led marker for this.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 24/07/2020 10:56:18 »The speed of light can be determined with marshmallows and a microwave.
https://wonders.physics.wisc.edu/measure-the-speed-of-light/
This is technically neither a two-way measurement nor a one-way measurement but a zero-way since it is measuring the (half) wavelength of a standing wave. The speed of light (EM radiation, which includes microwaves) is calculated by wavelength times frequency of the microwave oven.
Yes, we know this.
Humanity has successfully measured the speed of light. There is no problem about this subject.
We are now looking for the increasing speed of the distance between a single/identified photon and its source; so, our problem is this.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 23/07/2020 09:50:10 »That's an interesting, perhaps even an amusing coincidence.
As an exercise during the covid lockdown, I'm thinking of doing that experiment (well, one very much like it) .
I'm thinking about measuring the speed of light by timing it as it bounces across the room a couple of times.
I was planning to do something very much like the first experiment you have there with one inconsequential difference, I was going to use a 2 channel oscilloscope and two detectors connected to the 'scope with identical amplifiers and cables. (I wanted to avoid long cables- they are "lossy" and so they distort the signal)
I will drive the laser from a signal generator, for simplicity lets say I can drive the laser to emit a square wave light amplitude with a frequency of 10 MHz.
I bounce the light round the room a bit, to get a longer time interval to measure- something like 10 metres will give me a delay of about 30 nanoseconds.
So I will get two traces on my oscilloscope screen In principle they will be the same except that one will be delayed by 30 nS.
Do you agree that's what we expect to happen (if I ever set it up)?
It's not something that I'm going to get a Nobel prize for.
Congratulations...
Perform the mirrored experiment first and determine the c value in the atmosphere. It is both an exercise and you determine the margin of error based on 299 792 458 km / sec.
This experiment never gives c value. However, diagram evaluation among the values obtained in different directions will help interpret the gross value of the universe expansion rate (about 60% c).
Good luck.
General formula for different directions: I [(T2 - T1) c - L] I = VU (T2 - T1) I cosØ I
Vu : The relative speed of laboratory according to LCS.
You and me may write an academical paper about this.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 22/07/2020 19:09:24 »
Another experiment:
This experiment is easier, cheaper and it can be generated with smaller distance.
However, a measurement (that is mirrored and double paths) must be realized for universal speed of light c (top figure).
And the one way experiment at second figure may be performed. You may prefer 20 - 30 meters for L.
This experiment is easier, cheaper and it can be generated with smaller distance.
However, a measurement (that is mirrored and double paths) must be realized for universal speed of light c (top figure).
And the one way experiment at second figure may be performed. You may prefer 20 - 30 meters for L.
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New Theories / Re: Testing simultaneity and measuring the speed of light.
« on: 21/07/2020 15:24:16 »
1- White box is a remote control unit buttons. Connections are obtained with cables (lengths must be equal).
2- Led/light markers are on the monitors of atomic clocks.
3- Atomic clocks are on the same altitude and temperature and isolated from magnetism. (It can be used the corner points of a stadium)
4- Button 1 begins the video cameras.
5- Button 2 shots led/light markers.
6- Button 3 ends the experiment.
7- The moments T i are read on video films for first or last moments of light markers.
8- The difference of syncronisation can be interpreted.
9- The image of left clock on right top camera is the moment Tı and the image of right clock on right lower camera is the moment T2.
10- İnverse readings are for confirmation.
Note top cameras are televideocameras (e.g. 150x - 500x).
My experiment solves all problems.
The atomic clocks are placed on the corners of a stadium ( L = 100 meters).
led markers flash at a same moment due to cables (their lengths are equal).
Even if the atomic clocks are not syncronized, left and right videos provide correcting possibility.
The theoretical essence of this experiment (https://vixra.org/abs/2006.0224) allows to detect the expanding speed of universe; thereby a person who performed this exp. may be candidate for NOBEL prize.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 21/07/2020 15:20:40 »
My experiment solves all problems.
The atomic clocks are placed on the corners of a stadium ( L = 100 meters).
led markers flash at a same moment due to cables (their lengths are equal).
Even if the atomic clocks are not syncronized, left and right videos provide correcting possibility.
The atomic clocks are placed on the corners of a stadium ( L = 100 meters).
led markers flash at a same moment due to cables (their lengths are equal).
Even if the atomic clocks are not syncronized, left and right videos provide correcting possibility.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 21/07/2020 09:14:56 »I designed experiments for the speed of moving away from the source of the photon.Show us the designs.
1- White box is a remote control unit buttons. Connections are obtained with cables (lengths must be equal).
2- Led/light markers are on the monitors of atomic clocks.
3- Atomic clocks are on the same altitude and temperature and isolated from magnetism. (It can be used the corner points of a stadium)
4- Button 1 begins the video cameras.
5- Button 2 shots led/light markers.
6- Button 3 ends the experiment.
7- The moments T i are read on video films for first or last moments of light markers.
8- The difference of syncronisation can be interpreted.
9- The image of left clock on right top camera is the moment Tı and the image of right clock on right lower camera is the moment T2.
10- İnverse readings are for confirmation.
Note top cameras are televideocameras (e.g. 150x - 500x).
Vi
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 20/07/2020 17:16:34 »More support for special relativity in recent experiment: https://scitechdaily.com/cosmic-cataclysm-allows-precise-test-of-einsteins-theory-of-general-relativity/
I am following publications about relativity. They usually advocate theory. But a little of them are concerned with the essence. Inferences and derivative attractions are preferred. The ones that are most successful in defense add complexity (e.g. Optical density) to the event; Confusing is an effective way for anybody who is close to distinguish the postulate error.
The text you propose is not aggressive; it prefers the soft method and is not insistent for the result.
However, the inaccuracy of the theory is very simple (any complexity is not mentioned for the first approach): SR accepts/claims the value c is always increasing speed of the distance between the photon and its source. However, the changing speed of the intermediate distance is c +/ - Vu; but you find c when you measure it with a mirrored experiment. Because the mirrored device can only measure the universal speed of light; not the speed of moving away from its source.
I designed experiments for the speed of moving away from the source of the photon. The person who performed one of these can be a NOBEL candidate. Because he will can find the expanding speed of universe.
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New Theories / Re: Weakest point of special relativity
« on: 14/07/2020 14:13:54 »In mechanics, the speed of moving away is measured by an experiment in one way ( length / time). And this speed is a relative value according to first reference frame.
We have to measure the relative speed of a photon according to its source with similar method That is, one way measuring. And we can define this value is the increasing speed of the distance between the photon and its source. İf this one way speed is the value c; SR will be correct.
The theory of special relativity considers the measured value ( c ) of light's speed as the photon's speed of moving away from its source. Whereas known mirrored double paths method always the universal speed of the light according to space vacuum (Not its source).
Note: One way measurings never give a value as c. Because they measures the value c +/- Vu
Vu : the universal speed of the place of experiment according to space vacuum.