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does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« on: 23/01/2012 23:09:23 »
Came across these tourmaline 'ionic balance' wriststraps on Facebook.
http://www.ionic-balance.com/technology/tourmaline.html
Can they really make these wild claims? Theres a lot of shocking bad science here. People are paying £23 for a rubber wristband with a bit of mineral in it. Power of placebo? Is there actually any real scientific study backing up this snake-oil sales pitch?
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #1 on: 23/01/2012 23:17:11 »
"The electric current that courses through tourmaline is actually a flow of electrons originating in the sun. The sun bathes the earth in a continuous stream of negatively charged electrons, which enter the positively charged side of the tourmaline material and exit from the oppositely charged side. With this current flowing through it at all times, tourmaline is like a battery with unlimited life, one that never runs out!"
Wow, a never-ending source of energy! Why has no-one hooked them up before to power milk floats?
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #2 on: 24/01/2012 00:02:26 »
That website even has A page about SCAMS... At least it makes for a good laugh.
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Unfortunately there are many unscrupulous companies out there that sell either counterfeit items or products that have no health benefits whatsoever.  Many have bogus claims, and usually lack any sort of scientifc evidence to back up these claims.

Ionic Balance bands are different to other silicone bracelets.
My guess is that they are taking ideas way out of context.  Perhaps the crystals are piezoelectric, or pyroelectric, but that doesn't mean that they have tremendous healing properties.  Perhaps one could build solar panels with them, but likely they would be much less efficient than current designs.

I'd encourage you to just get a nice solar cell necklace instead. 

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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #3 on: 24/01/2012 00:43:29 »
Quote from: Sprool on 23/01/2012 23:09:23
Came across these tourmaline 'ionic balance' wriststraps on Facebook.
http://www.ionic-balance.com/technology/tourmaline.html
Can they really make these wild claims? Theres a lot of shocking bad science here. People are paying £23 for a rubber wristband with a bit of mineral in it. Power of placebo? Is there actually any real scientific study backing up this snake-oil sales pitch?

Sounds like a variant of the "power bracelet" scam, see the Aussie News clip on youtube ,
 (if for no other reason than to get an eyeful of the pneumatic newsreader).

Those bracelets certainly don't make you look younger ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Balance#Criticisms
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #4 on: 24/01/2012 01:07:47 »
The Tourmaline and Mylar ("Power balance") bracelets are virtually identical ...

* Mylar ''Power_Balance'' bracelet.jpg (6.63 kB, 220x165 - viewed 633 times.)

* Tourmaline wristband.jpg (9.04 kB, 229x172 - viewed 655 times.)
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #5 on: 24/01/2012 11:16:36 »
Thanks for the link RD
Power Balance is a brand of hologram bracelet once claimed by its manufacturers and vendors to "use holographic technology" to "resonate with and respond to the natural energy field of the body", and increase sporting ability.[1] Numerous independent studies of the device found it to be completely ineffective at improving athletic performance, and the manufacturer was forced to retract its claims in 2010.

In December 2010, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) required Power Balance to do several things, including making the following statement admitting they "engaged in misleading conduct":

"In our advertising we stated that Power Balance wristbands improved your strength, balance and flexibility. We admit that there is no credible scientific evidence that supports our claims and therefore we engaged in misleading conduct in breach of s52 of the Trade Practices Act 1974. If you feel you have been misled by our promotions, we wish to unreservedly apologize and offer a full refund."
In January 2011, a suit was filed against the company for fraud, false advertising, unfair competition and unjust enrichment.
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #6 on: 24/01/2012 11:21:17 »
Frankly I can't be asked to read their pseudo science claptrap...
But out of interest - does it mention which types of tourmaline they use and the different power enhancing effects of the different compositions - do you get charged more for Dravite or Elbaite or is it all boring old schorl? 
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #7 on: 24/01/2012 12:26:23 »
i think you outgeeked them, they just mention black tourmaline  ;D
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #8 on: 24/06/2022 11:49:54 »
Mineral Family: Tourmaline
Structure: Silicate
Hardness: 7-8
Chakra: Root
Zodiac: Capricorn,Scorpio and Libra
Element: Earth
Planet: Earth
Color: Black

:heart_decoration: What Are the Benefits of Black Tourmaline?

Here are a few key benefits you stand to gain from using black tourmaline.

Powerful Warding Abilities

Black tourmaline is a powerful warding stone and can be used to negate and dispel harmful energies. This is probably one of its most well-known functions and explains why the stone is one of the most commonly used protection stones used by most natural.

It Is a Potent Grounding Stone

Black tourmaline is not a high-energy stone and can therefore be used with stones that possess fast harmonious vibrations such as rose quartz, citrine, and so on. This produces a more calming, balanced, and grounded aura during use. Simply keeping a piece of the stone around creates a peaceful environment that is great for critical thinking, meditation, and healing as well.

 I have it in a pyramid that I love to meditate with. SPAM REMOVED There are many beautiful pyramids and jewelry made from black tourmaline or other crystal.
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #9 on: 24/06/2022 13:50:53 »
Quote from: kkwu1992 on 24/06/2022 11:49:54
Black tourmaline is a powerful warding stone and can be used to negate and dispel harmful energies. This is probably one of its most well-known functions and explains why the stone is one of the most commonly used protection stones used by most natural.
Oh, it keeps like vampires and werewolves away.  Does it also work on dementors?
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #10 on: 24/06/2022 15:04:34 »
Quote from: Origin on 24/06/2022 13:50:53
Oh, it keeps like vampires and werewolves away.  Does it also work on dementors?
It certainly works on spammers, this one went very quickly  8)
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #11 on: 24/06/2022 18:04:00 »
Quote from: Sprool on 23/01/2012 23:09:23
Is there actually any real scientific study backing up this snake-oil sales pitch?
No.
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #12 on: 24/06/2022 18:57:19 »
This is a science forum. Anything "magical" is not relevant to science.
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Re: does tourmaline have magical beneficial powers?
« Reply #13 on: 25/06/2022 12:16:26 »
There is however correlation between snake oil salesdroids and people being poorer, with something worth almost as much as regular dirt in return.
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