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Title: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Mazurka on 25/10/2012 09:20:23
(Spirit) Vinegar is a fantastic, if slightly odourous, substance for all manner of household cleaning tasks.  I used some the other day to very succesfully remove all of the scale and gunk from the shower head by simply leaving it soaking for a couple of hours.

So I was wondering, is it possible to thicken it up (to at least the consistency of bleach) whilst retaining its cleaning power to use it to clean the grout between the tiles?

   
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: damocles on 25/10/2012 15:10:19
I do not know about its cleaning properties, but you can make a soft gel from vinegar by adding a little lime (slaked lime) or limestone/seashells, and then some methylated spirit. I do not know about its cleaning properties, and you would have to play around with proportions to get the consistency you wanted
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Bored chemist on 25/10/2012 19:09:32
It wouldn't work as a cleaner very well if you neutralised the acidity of the vinegar with lime.


Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: fadridrocky on 14/03/2013 10:11:16
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hello I am one guy looking for innovative ideas for cleaning. Just found this thread. I have used vinegar several times for cleaning but never thought like this. Is it really possible to make vinegar paste?
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Lab Rat on 14/03/2013 16:28:10
I am just kind of throwing out ideas as I am writing this, but:
-I was curious so I checked about mixing vinegar with gelatin powder.  It said that it would not set because of the acid, but I think that if you used a lot of powder in proportion to the vinegar, you could make a paste-like substance.  (They actually make "balsamic vinegar jellies" for salads, etc. by doing that and adding substances such as sweet cooking wine to make it set.)  However, now you could run into problems such stains, etc.
-Maybe mix the vinegar with polyacrylic acid in powder form to create a paste or gel.  Someone please tell me if you think that this will work or not.

Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Ethos_ on 14/03/2013 16:36:16
It wouldn't work as a cleaner very well if you neutralised the acidity of the vinegar with lime.
Very true BC,..........why not mix it with a neutral substance like wheat flour? You could certainly make a paste of sorts by mixing these two items. 
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Lab Rat on 14/03/2013 19:00:16
I, myself, was wondering whether or not you could do that.  I just wasn't sure if the flour would neutralize the acid. 
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: bizerl on 14/03/2013 22:35:03
It's funny. I actually find that making a paste out of water and bicarb soda works really well for cleaning the grout between tiles.
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Don_1 on 15/03/2013 17:29:46
It's funny. I actually find that making a paste out of water and bicarb soda works really well for cleaning the grout between tiles.

You might try baking powder; though it is mostly sodium bicarbonate, there are other ingredients in it. Also makes a good tooth cleaner.

The problem with vinegar is the pong. Formic acid might be a good substitute and easy to obtain, provided you are skilled in the process of 'milking' ants.
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: RD on 16/03/2013 02:15:55
... Acetic acid might be a good substitute and easy to obtain, provided you are skilled in the process of 'milking' ants.

Ants produce another carboxylic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxylic_acid) ...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formic_acid
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: cheryl j on 16/03/2013 16:03:39
I know salt and vinegar cleans copper pots and pans.
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: confusious says on 14/05/2013 22:01:02
If you mix table salt with vinegar, it makes an excellent de-scaler :)
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: dlorde on 14/05/2013 22:38:00
Citric acid is the best descaler for drinking water scale in water-filters, kettles, coffee-makers, etc., because it doesn't smell, it's strong, cheap, and pretty safe - it's the acid in lemons, so its very sour; you'd know if you hadn't rinsed properly. It's sold by the kilo as crystals, for making home-made soap (it was news to me too!).

For grout I use gel bleach.
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: MalcolmWilli on 10/03/2014 23:24:56
I happened to come across a product by Rustoleum called Rust Remover. It has the consistency of maple syrup, but once you work it in it thickens nicely. I used it to remove years of built up rust on a couple vintage (handled) axes I had--worked as good as soaking in vinegar...check it out
Title: Re: What can you mix with vinegar to create a home made cleaning paste?
Post by: Reason on 17/07/2017 08:52:44
Hi,
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to add something to it.

How about using xanthan gum powder?
It is neutral and should do the job. It is recommended to only use 0.1 - 0.3 percent ratio which means only a very little bit, added while stirring, at a time.
I don't know but I think it is best to allow the substances to mix for a little while before continuing to add more?