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Title: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 06/05/2023 10:00:04
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Photo_of_subtle_body.png)

Photograph of the subtle body obtained using a special UV filter, the author of the photo probably was not aware of the obtained result. I discovered this photo by accident, by searching images of ultraviolet photography, around the year 2005. Colors are different than on photographs in visible light what is natural for UV photography. This photo is proof of the existence of the soul.

The structure of man looks like this: body-soul-spirit. This division can also be described as soma-pneuma-idealith, this approach seems more adequate for some reasons than the body-soul-spirit division. Soma includes body and soul, pneuma and idealith is another term for what is sometimes called the personal spirit, but the specific concept of Pneuma-Idealith seems more appropriate.
What is in fact schizophrenia ? Is Schizophrenia a serious disease as it is usually taken ? Or is schizophrenia the influence of a demon or demons ? Well, the secret is that schizophrenia is just a game of mind as it takes place between Pneuma-Idealith and Soma. The voice heard in schizophrenia is the voice of Pneuma-Idealith, while the other voices are those of other Pneumas-Idealiths.
One can believe or not into theory of reincarnation, but for my money this is one from religious conceptions which is valid - of course after certain and pretty thorough corrections, for example conception of karma is in big degree a superstition. As I have said the law of karma is largely a superstition. The concept of reincarnation itself seems useful after the appropriate revising. The next incarnations resemble the earlier ones, memory plays a major role here. Essentially, sex is a permanent feature of subsequent incarnations. Man does not incarnate in the form of insects, animals or plants, but retains species affiliation. Incarnation is the work of a Pneuma-Idealith.
What is called enlightenment is a mere illusion (although some form of enlightenment is possible), an escape from subsequent incarnations, or freeing yourself from the cycle of birth and death, is a mistake. Subsequent incarnations are beneficial and are associated with the process of evolution, so gradual development and improvement.

author of text: Gregory Podgorniak, Poland, year 2020

my other threads on this forum:

New perspectives in physics - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=85367.0
New theory of social evolution and social structure - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86048.0
Structure of electrons, quarks and gluons; preon, preons - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86090.0
How to raise your IQ, how to achieve higher IQ, how to get higher IQ ? - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86231.0
New theory of evolution -
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Newest Quantum Gravity and Theory of Everything, TOE - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86332.0
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 06/05/2023 10:01:21
This photo is proof of the existence of the soul.
No
It is not.
It is proof of blurry photographs.
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: paul cotter on 06/05/2023 16:39:46
Oh dear, new theories has descended into absolute nonsense, yet again.
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: Zer0 on 06/05/2023 20:57:08
@OP

If this Technique really works, has anyone else tried to get more sample images?

Does this Process require any specific expensive equipment?

Could these things be set-up to record videos, around a Graveyard or Hospice?

& If these Claims of ' proof of soul ' are Falsified n Fradulent, is there Anyone willing to take Responsibility  & serve jail time for Deceit?
(Surely the Photographer is Anonymous, isn't it.)
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: paul cotter on 07/05/2023 07:07:01
Zero, a soul may or may not exist. However the consensus among those who advocate it's existence is that it is a non material entity. Hence you will not detect it with visible, uv. gamma, or cosmic rays, a stream of neutrons, muons or anything one can think of. This is similar to these "ghostbusters" who use emf meters and such like to detect that which cannot be detected,-pathetic. Another bone of contention with me is the so called "Kirlian" photography which just detects the corona pattern around an object at high potential, more bogus pseudoscience.
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 08/05/2023 09:32:52
If this Technique really works, has anyone else tried to get more sample images?

I discovered the photo by accident while looking through the photos of UV photography, this is a new issue and no one is even trying to obtain such images specifically.

Does this Process require any specific expensive equipment?

As far as I know, the equipment is not too expensive, you just need a camera.

Could these things be set-up to record videos, around a Graveyard or Hospice?

Perhaps, yes

Surely the Photographer is Anonymous, isn't it.

No, the photographer is not anonymous, I just don't remember his name because I found this photo a long time ago and kept it in the archive for many years.



However the consensus among those who advocate it's existence is that it is a non material entity.

Not true, there were and are many supporters of the materiality of the soul.
Everything is made of matter, the personal spirit too. The spirit is made of quark-gluon matter, hard to decompose and can last thousands or millions of incarnations. The soul consists of several material planes, the subtle body from the photo in the first post probably consists of protons. The soul is material and mortal. The afterlife lasts for two periods, the so-called astral soul and the so-called mental soul, followed by another incarnation.
Title: Re: Photo of the subtle body, photo of the soul, astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 08/05/2023 10:39:46
The structure of man looks like this: body-soul-spirit. This division can also be described as soma-pneuma, this approach seems more adequate for some reasons than the body-soul-spirit division. Soma includes body and soul, pneuma is another term for what is sometimes called the personal spirit, but the specific concept of Pneuma seems more appropriate.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Origin on 08/05/2023 15:02:22
The structure of man looks like this: body-soul-spirit.
Claims with no evidence is just wishful thinking, not science.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Zer0 on 08/05/2023 19:35:58
Hmm...Interesting!

So all one needs is a good high quality camera equipped with special filters.

& an entry pass to an emergency ward or morgue or hospice, or a graveyard nearby.

A few clicks, at the Right place, at the Right time n Voila!

Fame & Fortune shall follow.
Possibly a out of category Nobel or other rewards & recognitions.

A chance to meet up with the Religious Leaders of the world.
Respect from almost all spiritual believers.

An age old controversial debate will end as a result of a few images.

Umm...c.p.u., Why is Nobody doing this then?
Any Thoughts.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 08/05/2023 21:13:48
https://xkcd.com/808/
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 10/05/2023 08:01:53
Umm...c.p.u., Why is Nobody doing this then?
Any Thoughts.

Because I discovered it, I am the first.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 10/05/2023 08:14:06
Because I discovered it
Discovered what?
Blurred pictures are not new.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: The Spoon on 10/05/2023 17:58:51
Umm...c.p.u., Why is Nobody doing this then?
Any Thoughts.

Because I discovered it, I am the first.
Not the first to have delusional beliefs in 'spirituality' that have no place on a science site.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Zer0 on 14/05/2023 20:56:43
Umm...c.p.u., Why is Nobody doing this then?
Any Thoughts.

Because I discovered it, I am the first.

Hmm...Congratulations!

Thou!
You seem to be halfway thru...

What if That was a Real person in that shot, which the Photographer missed out on?

The Image might Not be helpful, unless you or someone could Replicate the process, obviously under Supervision.

Critics will always hit back knowing You did not Click it, just pondered upon it in 2019.

Besides, who's to say, the Original Image wasn't digitally manipulated in 2005?

If in some manner, somehow in someway, this could be done thru a continuous video shot, That would be Truly Amazing!


" Believe you can, & you're halfway There. "
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 16/05/2023 11:43:06
Besides, who's to say, the Original Image wasn't digitally manipulated in 2005?

Of course, I didn't manipulate it. The photographer himself was simply taking pictures in UV light, and he didn't even think that he had photographed a subtle body. The photographer did not manipulate it because it would have given some sign that there is a subtle body in the picture, and this was not there.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: paul cotter on 16/05/2023 12:38:52
Not an expert in optics, but ordinary glass will not pass uv. I don't know about the makeup of compound lenses used in a camera but I suspect a special set of lenses would be needed to pass any significant uv.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: The Spoon on 16/05/2023 12:50:51
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Photo_of_subtle_body.png)

Photograph of the subtle body obtained using a special UV filter, the author of the photo probably was not aware of the obtained result. I discovered this photo by accident, by searching images of ultraviolet photography, around the year 2005. Colors are different than on photographs in visible light what is natural for UV photography. This photo is proof of the existence of the soul.

author of text: Gregory Podgorniak, Poland, year 2020
If it was photographed using a 'special' UV filter, why is there colour? A UV transmitting filter allows UV light to pass but blocks visible light and infrared. Hence ther picture would be black and white.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/05/2023 13:04:42
The photographer himself was simply taking pictures in UV light
How?
As has been pointed out, the lenses are opaque to all but the very longest wavelengths.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 16/05/2023 13:21:31
Not an expert in optics, but ordinary glass will not pass uv. I don't know about the makeup of compound lenses used in a camera but I suspect a special set of lenses would be needed to pass any significant uv.

How?
As has been pointed out, the lenses are opaque to all but the very longest wavelengths.

probably it was modified camera

If it was photographed using a 'special' UV filter, why is there colour? A UV transmitting filter allows UV light to pass but blocks visible light and infrared. Hence ther picture would be black and white.

it could be a hardware issue
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: The Spoon on 16/05/2023 14:00:59
it could be a hardware issue
What kind of hardware issue adds colour when only monochrome is present? You have demonstrated that not only are you gullible enough to believe all kinds of superstitious nonsense but that you also do not understand the photography that you claim is evidence. Do you relaise that this is a science site and nota general discussion for fairy tales?
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Zer0 on 16/05/2023 23:28:04
Sorry cpu...but there seem to be a few technical issues, as pointed out by the Others.

Inconsistencies at the Roots, hampers development of Shoots.

If the equipment was Faulty, the measurement would be Inaccurate.

I'd advise to simply start over all again.

All the Best!
& TC.
(I'll be waiting & watching the news)
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/05/2023 19:34:44
probably it was modified camera
Or not.
That's the problem.
You have no actual idea what the picture is or how it was taken.
But you are happy to pile guesswork on guesswork and then pretend you have some "discovery".

Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: The Spoon on 18/05/2023 13:27:07
This thread should be closed. The OP is not discussing anything with a scientific basis, it is just spiritulism.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 31/08/2023 11:51:54
The afterlife world and in some degree of dream life, should be observable in the Ultraviolet spectrum. One can imagine building cameras to observe this world.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Origin on 31/08/2023 13:07:25
should be observable in the Ultraviolet spectrum. One can imagine building cameras to observe this world
Or one could buy a UV camera instead of just imagining it, you still can't photograph things that don't exist however.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 27/10/2023 10:48:31
The so called mental body, the higher subtle body, should be observable in the X-ray spectrum.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 27/10/2023 14:38:01
The so called mental body, the higher subtle body, should be observable in the X-ray spectrum.
you still can't photograph things that don't exist however.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Kryptid on 27/10/2023 17:40:00
The so called mental body, the higher subtle body, should be observable in the X-ray spectrum.

Why do you think so?
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: paul cotter on 27/10/2023 19:05:56
Full moon, Kryptid.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 27/11/2023 22:48:03
Why do you think so?

If the lower subtle body could be observed in the ultraviolet spectrum, then the higher subtle body should logically be observable in the X-ray spectrum. Of course, you may not believe in the existence of this body, but it probably exists.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 27/11/2023 23:40:57
If the lower subtle body could be observed in the ultraviolet spectrum, then the higher subtle body should logically be observable in the X-ray spectrum
There is nothing "logical" about that.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 18/01/2024 15:05:46
The so called soul probably consists of two or three subtle bodies.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Origin on 18/01/2024 15:25:26
The so called soul probably consists of two or three subtle bodies.
Why not add a few more absurdities to your already absurd premise.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 19/03/2024 09:54:59
Demons do not exist, they are people in a posthumous state, in the subtle world, changed by conditions.
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 08/05/2024 08:14:50
Idealiths may also occur at a higher level than the personal one, for example the solar idealith (Christ) or the cosmic idealith (God the Father).
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: Bored chemist on 08/05/2024 17:14:47
Do  you mane this?
https://idealith.com/
idealith
An audio driver for Mac that transcribe and summarize all your calls and meetings!🎙️📝
Title: Re: Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body
Post by: cpu68 on 08/05/2024 19:00:34
Do  you mane this?

No, that's not this, idealith is a certain ideal form.