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Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 08/01/2023 02:50:48If our action today saves someone's life, or at least makes his life easier, and then he lives for another year, then it would be meaningful for at least a year.No, just meaningless for longer.
If our action today saves someone's life, or at least makes his life easier, and then he lives for another year, then it would be meaningful for at least a year.
Meaning only has meaning in an ongoing context, where the meaningful action has unique later consequences. When we are all dead, the universe will continue pretty much as it did before we were born.
the universal moral standard.
Can you imagine lives of human descendants a thousand years from now?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 10/01/2023 21:38:44 the universal moral standard....which is....?
The only similarity applicable to every conscious being, regardless of their shape, form, size, and ingredients, is that they want to extend the existence of consciousness further into the future.
No intention of Derailing the Topic or Discussion...But What If..?Fanatic Extremists of One specific religion were to Succeed in Converting/Killing All others until there is No Other religion left, besides just One.Would people belonging to the same Religion, the only one last religion left on earth, would they fight among themselves for Religious purposes?P.S. - I understand wars would still exist for money, gold, land, resources etc etc.
Clearly untrue. I know several childless people who have no desire (or in some cases ability) to procreate or support the offspring of others. Is a sterile hybrid not conscious?
Their consciousness can be a bit higher than children, but clearly lower than average adults.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 12/01/2023 11:45:46Their consciousness can be a bit higher than children, but clearly lower than average adults.Measuring something you can't define is a step on the road to insanity. Or a symptom of terminal philosophy, for which there is no cure.
Please refer me to your definition of consciousness.I only use the word to denote an ability to respond to a stimulus via some neurological process. My taste buds are far less sensitive than they were in my youth, and instead of screaming when I cut myself, I swear a bit and wait for the blood to coagulate. So your suggestion that adults have a higher level of consciousness than children doesn't seem to hold water.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9aNBxPk-ohere it is.Defining consciousness as the core concept in the universal terminal goal using only the requirements from the phrase and some basic knowledge of computational process.
I've uploaded a video about universal terminal goal, which could be the answer to the most important question ever. It's the summary of what I've discussed here.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=e67Z-kezblcThis thread has gone so long, and those who didn't follow it from the start might face difficulties in understanding the core ideas. I hope the video can help.
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2022 13:44:11Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 25/11/2022 08:34:05After finding that the universal terminal goal is to extend the existence of consciousness into the futureYou have not found that is the universal terminal goal, you have assumed that is the universal terminal goal.I would like to see you supply a succinct definition of "universal terminal goal".My second video will answer your concern. It will also address your misconception about the universal terminal goal.Most of the main points are already posted here somewhere, but they are scattered in random places. The video will collect them into a single place. Some visualization aids are also added to make the concept easier to understand.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLhu3lRUENU
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 25/11/2022 08:34:05After finding that the universal terminal goal is to extend the existence of consciousness into the futureYou have not found that is the universal terminal goal, you have assumed that is the universal terminal goal.I would like to see you supply a succinct definition of "universal terminal goal".
After finding that the universal terminal goal is to extend the existence of consciousness into the future
MIT professor, Kieran Setiya, discusses the questions that moral philosophy attempts to answer.