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Quote from: CliveG on 07/02/2020 15:39:03STDs keep people a little less promiscuous.So, you don't know what congenital means...Quote from: CliveG on 07/02/2020 15:20:18. It is reliable and predictable.If that was true, you could prove it.
STDs keep people a little less promiscuous.
. It is reliable and predictable.
(snip).Quote from: CliveG on 07/02/2020 15:20:18. It is reliable and predictable.If that was true, you could prove it.
If the spirits are willing to predict the outcome of elections, that actually could be used to statistically determine its accuracy. Predict the outcomes of many elections over time then tally up the accuracy of the results. I doesn't have to just be presidents.
No doubt Satan will
They will not be able to make definitive judgements that I am doing anything but telling the truth.
There are consequences to actions and consequences to sin. STDs are one consequence of promiscuity and sometimes the consequence can affect many people.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/02/2020 06:34:19 No doubt Satan will Rather a lot of doubt really.The logical fallacy you employed there is called "begging the question".Do you understand that by saying things that are clearly illogical, you undermine any attempts you make to put your views across?Quote from: CliveG on 08/02/2020 06:34:19They will not be able to make definitive judgements that I am doing anything but telling the truth. That's just the sort of thing where using fallacies undermines you.You know that it's fundamentally dishonest to use lies to make a point, but you use them.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/02/2020 06:14:06There are consequences to actions and consequences to sin. STDs are one consequence of promiscuity and sometimes the consequence can affect many people. Still missing the point of the word "congenital".
You are spending too much time on the "Logical Fallacy" site.
Trotting out cliches does not stimulate debate.
There are times one has to avoid the blunt truth in order not to offend people and those are the times I have to be careful with my words so I do not deceive (a knowing falsehood or lie).
(snip)And I see you are still missing the point, so I will try to spell it out for you.IT'S NOT THE CHILD'S FAULT.You have a God that punishes the child for something the child didn't do. That's a s***y way to behave.Let's face it, given the circumstances, it's likely the father doesn't even know that the child exists. He's unlikely to be put off by the "risk" of suffering by someone he will never meet.
Water into wine. One could suppose that such a miracle was allowed. Although if a rich admirer anonymously donated a lot of wine and food, it could have been left for people to gossip about a miracle. Even if a fully true miracle - where is the proof that laws of physics were broken.
Quote from: CliveG on 07/02/2020 15:20:18Water into wine. One could suppose that such a miracle was allowed. Although if a rich admirer anonymously donated a lot of wine and food, it could have been left for people to gossip about a miracle. Even if a fully true miracle - where is the proof that laws of physics were broken. No carbon atoms in water. You should have known that.
Congenital syphilis is not a punishment - a fetus can do no wrong so it can't be punished. It is a burden inflicted by god's living creation (a bacterium) on an innocent child. God is despicable, and drivelling on about the sins of the father being visited on the child just makes it more so - that's how filthy old perverts persuade teenagers to kill "unbelievers".
Please don't pretend to tell me what I think. Such arrogance is the mark of a Believer and is unbecoming to a gentleman.Humans have evolved as particularly collaborative and social animals. You might "overcome your programming" and live a solitary, disconnected life, but for most of us, society is fun and collaboration is more effective than adiabatic self-sufficiency. Empathy drives the social lubricant. As Dawkins pointed out, the only thing all religions have in common is that they teach you to despise all the others. And here we have the purest example: a theist having the unmitigated gall to tell another human what he thinks about his friends and family, simply because he doesn't share your bizarre superstition. If you want to be taken seriously, acquire some intellectual humility and scepticism.