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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: GoC on 05/09/2016 18:39:19

Title: Is dark mass energy the new aether?
Post by: GoC on 05/09/2016 18:39:19
    Being a realest seems to be out of vogue these days. Most scientists are  leaning towards the Copenhagen and Bohr non realest interpretation of physics. I remain in the realists camp with Einstein's view of the universe. It's matching observations to current theories that move scientists to unrealistic ideas. Like multi-verse, time travel and yes the Big Bang. Using a little logic we can ask questions not allowed by the current model. Questions that do not include the current model are termed unrealistic. This is not science just faith. Lets look at the Michelson and Morley experiment (MMX). They correctly proved that the logic of a stationary Aether was not possible in the current idea of photon travel. That same experiment could be made very simple by orienting a light clock in different directions and checking if they remain synchronous. The answer is they will. As a matter of fact mechanical clocks also remain synchronous with different orientations and with light clocks. This proves logically that what is controlling the electron is also controlling the photon. An orthogonal proof is they remain synchronous in all frames. This shows a weak association with the current model. The actual weakest point is the constant speed of light. The current model has no answer for the non entropy nature of the photon. This is why the term virtual photon was created. Relativity mathematics do not work if a photon has mass. Like I said I am a realest so what model would carry energy and not be a particle? The conclusion I have reached is energy being of space and not mass. Remember the electron and photon being confounded (controlled) by the same force?  There is one logical path refused to be taken by main stream science. Energy particles (Dark Mass) and spin (Dark Energy) two aspects of the same thing. With this tool all of the observations return to the realest camp. We can describe all relativistic observations in Relativity including the reason we can find no frame of rest.

We can tell by galaxy lensing that space dilates. What is dilating? Dilation is an expansion of space energy that light curves around. What is light? A wave on space spin energy at c. What is magnetism? Rotation of electro flow of energy and natural magnets are aligned electron spin of body centered rather than face centered molecules. So magnetism is just a spin direction of energy particles aligned. What makes electrons move? The grid structure of energy spin particles. Complimentary spin between energy particles with a 45 degree offset position of spin particles spinning in their plane as complimentary spin. This would create a cork screw forward motion for the electron. In all gravitational dilations the electron and photon are confounded by the same increase and decrease in dilation to measure the same speed of light in every frame. Reaction rate is controlled by dilation distances but all reactions will be the same in all frames. This follows Relativity. Since spin energy move electrons it becomes logical that electrons are attracted to less dense energy of space. Mass increases dilation of space and mass is attracted to the most dilated space by the inverse square law. The result is gravity. Still following Relativity.

The atom. The most dilated space is in the position of the proton but energy is pervasive even inside the proton. Consider the proton (and neutrons) made of complimentary rotating electrons. There not being plus and minus but just flow. An electron moves out by the grid spin energy having no complimentary partner like in a neutron. The momentum is the speed of the rotating electron with a total motion of c. As it moves away from the proton it encounters a more densely packed grid structure that causes it to curve back towards the proton. This electron is received at the same speed as all other electrons and takes its place inside of the proton kicking out another electron starting the cycle all over again.

What makes the electron move? Energy. What causes fundamental energy? Haven't a clue. But it's mechanics and not probability.
Title: Re: Is dark mass energy the new aether?
Post by: yinlang on 06/09/2016 19:20:39
We are in the outflow of a Universal black hole.

'Black holes banish matter into cosmic voids'
spacedaily.com/reports/Black_holes_banish_matter_into_cosmic_voids_999.html

"Some of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies."

At the scale of our Universe the energy described above is dark energy. As matter falls toward the Universal black hole it converts into dark matter. The dark matter outflow pushes the galaxy clusters, causing them to accelerate away from us. A Universal black hole is powering our visible Universe causing the galaxy clusters to accelerate away from us.

Title: Re: Is dark mass energy the new aether?
Post by: GoC on 07/09/2016 14:24:28
do you have a mechanism for the conversion? While most scientists agree the universe is expanding it is because of the current model of no Dark Mass Energy other than to explain expansion. Considering the proton electron distance is like a marble to a football field, Dark mass energy should be pervasive inside the sphere of the proton. So red shift of gravity (Dilation) near the center of galaxies and our view at the edge of our galaxy (less red shifted) will view all galaxies as red shifted. The galaxies are not necessarily moving away from each other or being sucked in to a black hole. our understanding frames our logic. Many things about your ideas do not fit with relativity. But at least you are thinking.
Title: Re: Is dark mass energy the new aether?
Post by: jerrygg38 on 07/09/2016 15:05:29
   It seems to me that there was a time when all the energy of the universe existed within a small sphere. this exploded with the result of particles and photons and photonic fields and electromagnetic fields. Within these fields are dark matter and dark energy. These consist of three electrical forms as plus dot-waves, minus dot-wave, and bipolar dot-waves together with three different momentums. There is linear, orbital, and spherical. Photons are linear and orbital while mass is spherical but can have some linear and orbital motions as well. over time mass degenerates into the fields and the universe expands. Since the dot-waves have a basic quanutm level of 1.372E-72Kg and a charge of 1.422E-60 coulombs, they have little effect when they encounter a moving object. However collectively they are the fields or Aether.
Title: Re: Is dark mass energy the new aether?
Post by: GoC on 07/09/2016 15:49:37
The Big Bang is a unprovable theory based on explanations of observations. Your ideas are theory biased. As a theory based on Relativity based Dark Mass energy different ideas are possible. The BB is not based on Relativity theory and  not based on Dark Mass Energy. DME was added to the current model to explain expansion of the Universe. But when we relate it to Relativity other explanations fall out. Including all answers to perceived paradox's answered logically within the realm of Relativity. Mass created from DME in stars. Red shift being dilation of energy the gamma term in General Relativity being the cause and not just Special Relativity. The only real difference is a Energy Aether rather than a stationary Aether. Stationary Aether was disproven by the MMX. An Aether that mass creates a wave on which we view as light along with the entire spectrum has to follow the math of Relativity. Fundamental energy of space as a conduit for work energy of mass. Fundamental energy=time=motion that follows Relativity. No paradox's.

Seems to me. That is not a scientific argument