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Title: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 14:15:12
Sociological theory

1. Division of sociology seizes aspect evolutional, structural, systematical and cultural. From the point of view of biology, sociology is a domain investigating population, particularly human population. Its purpose is to build general theory of this population on three levels macro, mezo and micro as contrasted to detailed theories, political science, economical, historical etc. So its field can be differentiate from other social sciences as political science, economy, cultural anthropology, ethnography, history, cultural studies etc.
Creator of sociology A.Comte developed one from firsts modern theory of science. Main domains - astronomy and mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, sociology - today at next place we can add psychology, he ordered according to the diminishing degree of the generality - diminishing range, from astronomy to sociology, to which accompanies the growth of the complexity of investigated phenomenones. Whereat every domain previous following determines for its indispensable base. From this theory results clearly that sociology investigates most complexity phenomenones and needs proper methods but strongly analogical to methods of physics or biology. The antinaturalistic sociology being expression of unripeness transfers sociology into a sphere of pseudoscience and rubbish.
As biology come its own generally obligatory paradigmatic theory which is theory of evolution, similarly became with sociology. Thus levering of the importance of theory of evolution aground of sociology is similar to levering the importance of theory of evolution aground biology. Both undertakings are in the same way nonsensical and unscientific.

2. Models are a basic component of the scientific explanation and one of bases for building of a theory. It is worth to notice that organicism or organic analogy was a model and not an metaphor. For a development of culture biomorphotical model (from biomorphosis - human life cycle) seems to be useful - similarly as in a field of physics a good model of a structure of atom it proved to be a planetary system. Last period of development of civilization had impetuous character. What corresponds with biomorphotical model but only in its more exact kind. We can say that phases of the mind of a man correspond to the epochs of the mind of the society but partition on phases childhood, youth and adulthood isn't fully precise. It is known that adulthood phase is preceded by a period of ripening, following after a period of childhood. Just in this period we are found at present. It have started not long ago, about year 1700 and characterize it accelerated and even impetuous development, demographic, civilizational and technical.
Applied effectively in my general theory of evolution (see map of my research) logistic development (diag. 1) is best fitted for its description. Till now unsolved problem what means that stormy social development can find a clear explanation aground of proposed theory.

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diagram 1. Logistic development
 
3. In first period dominated fictitious and delusional representations. Which anyway till today kept the vitality. Still at the beginning the twentieth century came into being the theosophical sect proclaiming the existence of elves, gnomes, and sylphs. Still alive astrology is the same what a divination from scattered animal bones - so from an aleatorily obtained configuration, function of bones fulfil planets; "accuracy" comes from inaccuracy of used categories which each separately can contain any property or notion. Of course, information value of such "method" must be equal zero.

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diagram 2. Ripening of civilization. You can also put a backward culture at the bottom of the curve and a technical culture at the top of the curve.

4. General civilizational megaevolution is leading from simple backward culture to complex cosmical culture. It consists of three main subprocesses connected with three types of civilization, dependently from their cosmic range:

(https://images2.imgbox.com/9e/f7/TQUpOAjG_o.gif)

diagram 3. Sociomegaevolution

- Type I, planetary, is connected with transition inside simple backward culture, about 10000 BC
- Type II, civilization which is entering in interplanetary space, is connected with transition from simple backward culture to complex scientific culture, present and future time
- Type III, which is entering in interstellar space, far future

5. Outline of new religion. I assume that God exists. He resides over space where there would be a higher vacuum (vacuum above the cosmic vacuum), which can be treated as nothingness. Some form of God includes the planetary system, above all the Earth and the Sun. Christ was one of his incarnations. There were more such incarnations-avatars than accepted in the Vishnu religion, which mentions only ten avatars. There were probably several dozen of them. It dates back to the appearance of Cro-Magnon Man, approximately 40,000 years ago. Of course, we can assume that there were also incarnations in earlier hominid forms, and there were many of them. Christ is an incarnation of a spiritual being (solar idealith) of the solar system, primarily the Sun, and can also be called the Sun God (let us recall the Egyptian religion). Although Christ was only one of the incarnations of a certain form of God, he is the last, tenth avatar of Vishnu, but I believe that he was not the last avatar and that there will be more.
Over the being of the Son Christ extends the much greater and more powerful being of the Father. The Father covers the entire universe with his power. He is also the creator of the universe. Above I presented the order of cosmic structures.
As for the cult of the Virgin Mary, it is false. Mary actually migrated after Christ in subsequent human incarnations and will continue to migrate. Therefore, among other things, Marian sanctuaries are unnecessary. I will also add that the concept of the Apocalypse presented in the New Testament is fiction. Instead of Marian sanctuaries, sanctuaries of God the Father should be built. About ultramodern architecture. You can also simply build churches in honor of the Father, although currently there are Fatherly temples, namely synagogues and mosques. However, the portrayal of the Father as strict and threatening, as in Judaism and Islam, is not correct. The father is actually friendly and gentle.
Above the being of the Father resides the highest and most heavenly non-existence of Nothingness. Nothingness is actually the supreme God, or rather the Mother-Goddess, and creates everything. The Gorgias theory can be recalled here, but this would be its new and more interesting version.
Why you sleep at night. Because darkness is inactivity, also passivity, femininity. Darkness and Nothingness is passive, which is why it can take the form as if of a woman. For us humans, Nothingness takes the form as if of a goddess, a woman-mother, but this image should not be taken too literally. In fact, the statement that Nothingness is a woman should be treated as a pictorial metaphor. Nothingness also means freedom and liberty. Mystery is darkness. Nothingness is darkness. Nothingness is the deepest mystery. The doctrine and religion I have presented may seem beautiful because Nothingness and Darkness are beautiful. I would propose creating a new religion of Nothingness and building temples and sanctuaries of Nothingness, about ultramodern architecture. The religion of Nothingness should be considered the most important of all, the temples and sanctuaries of Nothingness the most important. Nothingness is the supreme God, the Mother-Goddess.
The condensation theory of Nothingness assumes that everything is just a condensed form of Nothingness and Darkness. Nothingness and Darkness as the Mother of all gives birth to the cosmos from the seed of the primeval singularity. This singularity was created by God the Father (cosmic idealith). The Father himself probably emerged from Nothingness and Darkness.

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diagram 4. Nothingness is darkness. Symbol of new religion of Nothingness.

(the above paragraph is from year 2024)

People interested in creating and organizing a new religion of Nothingness, please contact me at the following e-mail address: podgorniakgre@gmail.com

6. Psychology can appear as domain extremely helpful for build of sociological theory. If because in psychology must prevail cognitive paradigm then also as same must be in sociology, because social processes are resultant of individual processes. Thus society can be seized as system of transmission of data, informations, knowledge, cognition. Completed by transmission of consumer goods, effects of production, money, interpersonal and emotivic relations. It is worth to see that a notion of system is here understood unlike in hitherto existing sociological theories. In society occur cognitive processes, such as if learning, remembering, creativity which an expression is Culture.
It is possible divide in society in fact three societies, society let us call it cognitively exclusive, society cognitively medial and society cognitively poor. Such divide however does not overlap on other kinds of social stratification, such as stratification of the wealth.
In statistics logistic model connects with normal distribution model which is perfectly fitted to describing of social structure.

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diagram 5. Sociostructure

7. The most fundamental property of the whole population is development or evolution. The culture or civilization develops as well as the population itself. The second most fundamental property of the whole population is its structure. The population is ordered. It is possible to order the population, for example, through the ownership of financial resources, i.e. through wealth. The third most fundamental property of a population is its numerical size. The fourth most fundamental property of population is that it constitutes a culture. The fifth most fundamental property of a population is its level of development.
In my theory, I use the logistic jump model to describe population evolution. Where the old population is replaced by the new, both in culture, where a backward culture is replaced by a technical one, and in the population itself, where completely new members of society appear alongside the old incarnations. To describe the structure, I use the normal distribution model, where I order the population in terms of cognitive level. As for size, the logistic jump model seems to best describe the process of population growth. And here again the old, small population is replaced by a new, very numerous population. As for the culture, the old backward culture has been replaced by a new technical one. As for the level of development, four basic levels can be distinguished. Backward, technical, developed technical and highly developed technical culture. There are cultures of varying degrees of development in the cosmos, including developed and highly developed technical cultures.

(above paragraph is from year 2023)

8. Regarding Marx, about falseness of his conception should testify so called prognoses of Marx concerning future which would have completely to pass with reality. Bankruptcy of cretinous communist systems have showed emptiness of Marxism and boundlessness of stupidity of these which decided thoughtlessly come after Marx. And it was a wide social phenomenon. Still today Marx finds supporters and continuators also in academical environments - fundamental assumption of so called theory of conflict is erroneous, because not conflict but cooperation (solidarity) is base of society. Without it it would not be able arise or exist.
Regarding Weber, the theory on the subject of rising of capitalism seems wrong.
Firstly notion of the capitalism itself which uses Weber is doubtful. Was introduced by Marx, within the framework of his unripe theory. Instead of the notion of the capitalistic society, often is using better notion of industrial society. If we will use this notion then axled will be problem of rising of industry, and for this base determine a development of technics and machines, where axled meaning had an invention of steam engine. Thence a base of development of capitalism in decisive phase was development of technics.

9. Nota bene other "known" German can soon have "a significant" influence on social phenomena. One can believe or not into theory of reincarnation, but for my money this is one from religious conceptions which is valid - of course after certain and pretty thorough corrections, for example conception of karma is in big degree a superstition. Now in years 2040-2070 or 2090-2120 (what less probable, similarly as admissible whole range 2070-2120), it can be expected following public activity of A.Hitler. This information can appear insomuch important that probably he will lead to unleashing of nuclear war, what predictably will cause annihilation of biosphere. It is worth to notice that if he caused eruption of World War II so on the same basis his future political activity is practically tantamount with eruption of world war III (more in my text Return of a big danger...). There is a high probability that the prediction described above will not come true because God may intervene. I also recommend that readers pray to Christ, Father and Nothingness to stop the current incarnation of Hitler from coming to power.

10. It is worth to notice that presented by me theory creates homogeneous cognitive sociological theory.

(2008)

11. Marxism's errors consist in the fact that 1. The final development is the middle class, not the working class 2. A process of qualitative transition is not necessarily and usually not revolutionary. Even a demographic boom with a growth rate of 2% per year is not revolutionary but evolutionary. Against the background of previous development, it seems very fast, but only because that one was very slow. Therefore, if changes are needed, they should be endeavor gradually, though dynamically reaching them finally 3. Any so called qualitative change - for example, the transition of water into ice, or steam into water - is actually a cumulative quantitative change; that is, a quantitative change taking place quickly over a short period of time (compare logistic development).

12. As I have already noted, conflict theory is incorrect. Because cooperation is the foundation of society, without it it could not arise or exist. As intelligent beings, we should strive for agreement and cooperation, which seems rationally justified. This approach can be called The Theory of Rational Cooperation. For example, education based on the student-teacher relationship involves mutual cooperation between both parties, in the event of a conflict, the education process becomes impossible. Parts of the social system work together, which is the basic property of the system. The benefit and loss account is favorable for cooperation, unlike the conflict where losses prevail. Cooperation is the basis of social order. As can be seen, reason, and therefore the cognitive powers decide about the ability to cooperate, and therefore the superior theory relative to the theory of rational cooperation is cognitive theory. However, the assumptions of conflict theory are fundamentally wrong.

(year 2019)

13. If we want to define the era following modernism, instead of using the term postmodernism, we should use the term ultramodernism, which I coined. The era, which can be dated from the year 2000, under my logistic analysis (compare point 3) can last for many thousands or tens of thousands of years.

(year 2020)

14. The property of evolution can be considered in two ways. It will be social evolution on the one hand, and the biological evolution of the human species on the other. The evolution of the species should in the future lead to the replacement of the old species of man with a new species of superman. Intermediate links leading to a new species can be observed in a population, an example of such an intermediate link may be A. Einstein. Einstein's 1921 photograph shows the features of a intermediate link. Let's call them "drooping eyebrows", which is a sign of an enlarged braincase (see wikipedia Albert Einstein, subsection: Life and career, subsection: 1921-1923: Coming to terms with fame).

(year 2023)

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland

about the author, My name is Gregory Podgorniak (brn. 01.1977, Szczecinek, West Pomerania, Poland). I am working on field of natural as well as social sciences. During philosophical studies at Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznan (1996-1999) I was actively act in student scientific organisation, got a scientific scholarship and one from my articles titled Circulus vitiosus and fourfold petitio principii in the system of Descartes was published in Humanistic Drafts of Publishing House of Humaniora Foundation in Poznan, no. 6, 1998. Unfortunately certain fate events made impossible to me continuing studies to master's and later doctor's degree. Thence I was forced to be content only with a title of bachelor.
Thanks to deep and penetrating researchings I was able to establish indisputably some number of my past incarnations reaching of ancient period, these data are certain, these incarnations are: Auguste Comte (1798-1857) French philosopher and sociologist, Edme Mariotte (1620-1684) French physicist and meteorologist, Bodhidharma (5th or 6th century) buddhist patriarch, Aenesidemus (1 st century BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Arcesilaus (315-241 BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Gorgias (485-380 BC) Greek sophist.

email contact: podgorniakgre@gmail.com

Continuation of the text in next post in this thread.

my other threads on this forum:

New theory of evolution - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86174.0
New perspectives in physics - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=85367.0
Structure of electrons, quarks and gluons; preon, preons - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86090.0
How to raise your IQ, how to achieve higher IQ, how to get higher IQ ? - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86231.0
Photo of subtle body, photo of soul, photo of astral body - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86291.0
Newest Quantum Gravity and Theory of Everything, TOE - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86332.0
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 14:18:14
rest of the text:

15. Correct and incorrect social processes can be distinguished. Nowadays, incorrect social processes include the creation and existence of totalitarian, communist and Nazi systems. The rise and existence of, among others, the Soviet Union and communist China. For example, the center of Shanghai can be considered an example of the most developed ultramodern architecture (see google, Shanghai, images), but this effect was obtained as a result of an incorrect social process. Therefore, it would be better if this city center was not built at all, and the appropriate development should take place within the framework of normal democratic systems. However, the example of Shanghai shows that governments with large state participation (alongside the free market) may turn out to be a beneficial phenomenon. But today's China can be considered an example of one of the worst and most bandit states in the entire world. The best state is one in which the share of the free market, free economy and liberalism occupies half of the state structure, while the other half is occupied by the state, so it is a half-and-half division.

16. In 2015 Japanese scientists sent 1.8 kilowatts of electricity using microwaves over a distance of 55 meters. Also Japanese scientists from JAXA (Japanese Space Exploration Agency) assume that around 2040 it will be possible to send electricity from Earth's orbit. What I would like to note is the fact that in the distant future it will be possible to send electricity directly from the Sun through wireless channels.

17. Sociologism (term coined by me) - all sciences, their terms and claims can and should be reduced to sociology. On the one hand, the simplification of science leads to physicalism, and on the other, their complication leads to sociologism.

18. I consider the entire human population in my previous and current considerations. It can be assumed that there is a global culture with some territorial differentiation. Over the past centuries, this culture has gained previously unknown properties. Among other things, the subjugation of electromagnetism and electricity turned out to be key.
Thanks to electricity, it was created as if a new population brain in which communication, like in an ordinary brain, is based on the flow of electricity. The scope of social communication has developed enormously thanks to, among others, radio, television, telephony and the Internet. It is worth noting that the brain model is similarly suitable for describing the older population, except that the brain of this population was less developed. In addition, planetary culture is undergoing globalization, or homogenization, some unification and equalization across the globe. From these considerations, the concept of population as a brain emerges.
It is worth noting here two circumstances, one is the fact that the brain model perfectly agrees with the cognitive theory of the population, if we assume that the model under consideration is the human brain, because in the human brain cognitive processes prevail. The second is that network concepts fit the brain model very well.
For Culture's memory are primarily responsible its products such as books, and now also data carriers. And so on.
The concept of social brain agrees well with the concept of three subpopulations presented earlier. All manual workers, like the brainstem, are responsible for the vital functions of the population. Intelligentsia in turn, like the cerebral cortex, for the cognitive functions of the population. Intermediate layer for intermediate functions. Intelligentsia, due to the fact that it is responsible for the cognitive functions of the social system, seems in a sense much more important than manual workers, just as the cerebral cortex is in some sense more important than the brainstem.  However, this does not mean that the importance of workers and other groups apart from the intelligentsia should be underestimated, because they play an extremely important role in society. Just as the brainstem is responsible for the vital functions of an animal or human organism, similarly, say, workers are responsible for the vital functions of society.
For my cognitive theory, the analysis of the neural network turns out to be crucial.
 In addition to the brain model, a model of the cerebral cortex should be considered. The cortical model would agree with the size of the population at the end of the logistic jump, since the number of cells in the cerebral cortex is about 10 billion. The cortical model also agrees with network concepts.
The brain model and cortical model appear to be justified by Comte's theory of science, in which biology is the basis for sociology, and from which the latter science can draw key models for itself.

19. The basic property of a social system is learning. Knowledge as such is practically social, without social interaction knowledge is almost impossible. It boils down to the existence of mainly books, and today also to such media as the Internet. So the social system learns practically everything. On this path, among others, science was created and developed. As part of the system under study, communication takes place that comes to language, whether spoken or written.
Other important properties of the social system are generalization of experience, adaptation, information processing and recognition. Data analysis in the social system makes it possible to determine the causes of failures of specific projects undertaken in the past, thanks to which it is easier to avoid mistakes in the future. There are ten properties of our social cognitive system:

1) evolution
2) structure
3) numerical size
4) culture
5) level of culture
6) intelligence
7) memory
8 ) language
9) knowledge
10) learning

I discussed p. 1-5 earlier. Intelligence for Intelligentsia is heightened. For culture's memory are responsible its products such as books, and now also data carriers. Language is spoken or written. Knowledge is mainly collected by Intelligentsia. Learning was discussed earlier.

20. In addition to industrial production, consumption is an equally important concept. We distinguish primarily market - goods consumption that occur when the consumed goods come from the market, so they were bought by the consumer. In addition, it is also worth mentioning about social consumption when the goods consumed are financed from public funds, as an example can be the use of public library collections.

21. Apart from the industrial revolution, the French revolution and the sometimes mentioned urbanization, there are also other phenomena of key importance from the point of view of sociology from the last centuries. It will be respectively a scientific revolution started with the work "On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres" and a technical revolution, for which the invention of the steam engine was crucial and the formation of the United States of America. It will be quite right to note that we currently live in a society steeped in science and technics with significant USA influence on a global scale.

22. From the point of view of the cognitive paradigm, the flow of information seems to be one of the key issues. In the twentieth and twenty-first centuries there has been an improvement in the flow of information in the modern population compared to the old population, thanks to technological advances. Starting from radio, through television and ending with mobile telephony and the Internet. When the old population had only written script and oral communication. These achievements of the modern and ultramodern population were made possible by the mastery of electricity and electromagnetism. The described development is associated with a significant increase in the cognitive abilities of the population.

23. In modern research, only a new population is considered, which has arisen over the past centuries. This approach does not describe an old population that has existed for thousands of years, but a new one that has arisen recently, as if this new population has existed for a very long time when it is not. It is worth noting that studies of the contemporary population sin the inevitable provisional nature of their results, due to the fact that they capture a new population in the process of its formation only, and not in a structurally permanent state. So a new population is just taking shape, which may take some time, though centuries have passed, and the hint of Gould and Eldredge's concept in biology, where the emergence of a new biological species is taking several centuries, shows that this process is probably about to end.

24. In biological microevolution, a sigmoid-based mechanism works when a certain population is transformed into another population - one species into another. An appropriate mechanism also based on a sigmoid also works in the social area and interestingly it actually transforms the population into another population, the biological species does not change but the social species changes (the backward one changes into technical), the emergence of a modern society can be compared to the emergence of a biological species. With the fact that sociology is limited to only one biological species, while the old social species disappears, a kind of society, and a new one appears. It is a change of species, the old social species ceases to exist, the old population and a new social species emerges, a new population. One social species over the centuries changes into another, hence if that one has existed for thousands of years then this one will also exist for thousands or tens of thousands of years.

(year 2020)

25. Among the highest subpopulation, an elite consisting of scientists, artists and writers can be distinguished. Science is the highest type of cognitive activity in the population. Apart from that, art has its own meaning. And among scientists, one can distinguish one more elite consisting of outstanding scientists. They decide on the shape of science and constitute the highest elite group in the entire population. Apart from outstanding scientists, such an elite also includes outstanding artists and writers.

26. With reference to paragraph 19, taking into account the property of the intelligence of the human population, along with the development of civilization, according to the sigmoidal model, there was a clear increase in the level of intelligence of the population. It is enough to mention here the spread of education, which actually covers the entire population. Today's ability to read and write is not unique, but it was not so in the old prejump population. The transition from illiteracy to education should be considered one of the essential features of the development of the last few centuries.

27. Logistic development also used in my theory of biological evolution and gigaevolution (see my text New theory of evolution https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86174.0 (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86174.0)) proves that the same laws apply to social as well as biological phenomena. This is evidence for naturalism in sociology.

(year 2022)

28. The Gaussian curve (a normal distribution) has found its application in psychology. So far, it has not been used in sociology, except for statistics. As it turns out, it can take a prominent place in sociological theory, which is a great novelty. However, the use of the logistic curve - to describe social evolution - seems revolutionary, and is even greater novelty. The formulation of the cognitive sociological theory, theory of cooperation and the use of the brain model, the neural network model and the cortical model are also a big novelty.

29. More about intelligence from paragraph 19. Population intelligence manifests itself at three basic levels, i.e. it has a three-level structure. The highest level concerns selected individuals from the mass of the population who move the culture forward. Within a social system, a small number of individuals emerge and occupy the highest level. These are primarily outstanding scientists, engineers and artists. Knowledge collected within the population, mainly in the form of books and articles in magazines, and now also on websites, reaches these selected individuals and they transform it into new knowledge (or creativity) thanks to their ideas. Figures such as Copernicus, Faraday, Einstein, Bach occupy the top positions in the entire population. There are, of course, more representatives of this highest level, the mentioned characters they occupy the very top of the level described.
The second, lower level is a much larger number - than the number of selected individuals - of individuals that are responsible for collecting and disseminating known knowledge and achievements. These are academics, teachers, authors of textbooks, outlines, encyclopedias, and in the case of art, for example, music performers.
The third, lowest level consists of individuals who only occasionally or never participate in the reception or creation of knowledge and creativity. These will be, for example, workers, people who have completed primary and vocational schools.

(year 2023)

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland

Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Origin on 17/01/2023 15:01:08
How about an even shorter synopsis.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 15:45:13
How about an even shorter synopsis.

I prefer to present the text as fully as possible
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: alancalverd on 17/01/2023 17:37:48
Doesn't really help since the "religious" curve is clearly upside down.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/01/2023 17:46:18
. Division of sociology seizes aspect structural, systematical, developmental and functional.
Does not even parse.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 18:12:31
Doesn't really help since the "religious" curve is clearly upside down.

Do I understand correctly that you are a believer ?
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 18:19:09
brief synopsis maybe in some other time
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Origin on 17/01/2023 18:31:31
I prefer to present the text as fully as possible
I'm not going to slog through all of that without seeing a brief synopsis.  I'm pretty sure others will, so have fun.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 17/01/2023 18:59:34
I'm not going to slog through all of that without seeing a brief synopsis.  I'm pretty sure others will, so have fun.

However, I invite you to read the whole thing
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Origin on 18/01/2023 00:05:55
However, I invite you to read the whole thing
If the synopsis peaks my curiosity I will, otherwise I don't think so.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: alancalverd on 18/01/2023 00:20:24
However, I invite you to read the whole thing
Without reading it all, I can't dismiss it as total bullshit, but having sampled a few cowpats I'm not inclined to spend more time in this meadow.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 27/01/2023 15:19:20
having sampled a few cowpats

enjoy your meal
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: chris on 31/01/2023 11:44:22
What's the question you are asking?
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 31/01/2023 13:35:50
What's the question you are asking?

I don't ask any question
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 31/01/2023 17:57:52
Mentioned in text from first post Theory of science by Auguste Comte:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Comte%27s_Theory_of_Science.png)

According to him whole of sciences consists of theoretical and applied knowledge. Theoretical knowledge divide on general fields as physics or biology, which are an object of his research and detailed such as botany, zoology or mineralogy. Main fields mathematics, astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology and sociology it is possible to order according to decrescent range of research and complicatedness of theoretical tools what is connected with growing complexity of investigated phenomenones. Following sciences are based on previous, for example to methodically capture chemistry, we must imply acquaintance of physics, because all chemical phenomena are more complicated than physical phenomena, are also from them dependent and themselves do not have on them an influence. Similarly sciences classified as earlier, are older and more advanced from these which are presented as later.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: alancalverd on 31/01/2023 22:53:53
According to him whole of sciences consists of theoretical and applied knowledge.
Such insight!

Time was that the UK National Physical Laboratory had two principal divisions, respectively concerned with fundamental research and engineering. My boss swore he saw two workmen crossing the campus, one carrying a straight ladder with the words "BASIC PHYSICS"  painted on the side, and the other a hinged stepladder labelled "APPLIED PHYSICS".

Anyway, over 50 years ago in a moment of undergraduate lucidity I wrote "physics is a trivial particularisation of mathematics." It is also clear that chemistry is physics in a bucket, biology is lots of chemistry, and sociology is what happens when too much biology is confined in too little space.

You may quote me, with all due deference and admiration.   
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: aspagnito on 02/02/2023 15:15:42
To have a new theory of social evolution you must start not from the beginning. It all began from the era of globalisation. Finanses are very important, but what shaped globalism was transport and communication. Before the era of globalisation transport was prome to communication - to communicate two continents, one had to send ships and letters. Int the era of globalisation communication is prime to transport - first one sends a message to communicate two continents, and then sends transport.
Also there is a different factor. The one that goes with biology. Some 60-80% of our geno comes from viruses (which by the way stands in conflict with darwinism). It was virus that changed the thinking of homo sapiens in cognitive skills. Humans created fantasy as a reaction of an imagination to human emotions (the "wild monkey" in the mind, having nothing in common with monkeys, because chimps have imagination, can plan and can think abstractly - yet they have no fantasy which I described on this forum).. The cognitive revolution was something that made humans a kind and not a species. It's what made humans really humans. Thanks to that we were able to create tools with a use of compplicated tools, art, religion, and a bow, that we used to eliminate competition - neandertalensis was first stronger and smarter than we were.
And the third thing I'd like to mention (I mention only three key things so that you can have a better view for your theory) is bike revolution. To be genetically healthy one must have a proper relation of inbred to outbred. Just because a visioner that crossed racing horses, count Lehndorff, said that to have better genetical results one must interbreed like inbred-outbred-inbred (also with incest, hybridisation, halfbreds and the most statistical ones in population - "wild types" - mitchurinism).
Bike revolution happened naturally woth the invention of a bike. First, humans who lived in villages had lots of inbred -- they mated in some 5-15 kilometers, so everyone was an aunt or an uncle to everybody. Lots of inbred, which on a longer period of time is not good. But with the evolution of a bike - the distance raised to 30-50 kilometers, which in most civilised countries includes big cities. And that is outbred after inbred. That made a change. The world war I and II eliminated the weak, but the ones who were stronger survived. Sad but true.
I also want to inspire you with two other things - human consciousness is not an elctrical state, but an electromagnetical one. It orignates in pineal gland, corpus callosum and ponds - all that works in the scentre of a brain like a big anthena and can make for example start the emotional process - like emotions were also energy (but energy is just a simplifier).
Also forget about Maslow's pyramid - it sounds like you must do a pooh before you can pay for your toilet. There are prime things that cause pleasure. And that is eating, drinking, sex, pee, poo, and regeneration. The prime needs are happiness, freedom and love, and there is I' the description of an I, and the distance to the description of an I - so one cannot have the distance to oneself, but a distance to things that describe oneself - as for example a state of possesion. And the ego cannot be eliminated, but reduced.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: aspagnito on 02/02/2023 15:21:04
ʃ Mathematics = Physics
ʃ Physics = Chemistry
ʃ Chemistry = Biology
ʃ Biology = History
ʃ History = Archeology
ʃ Archeology = Anthropology
ʃ Anthropology = Sociology
ʃ Sociology = Psychology
ʃ Psychology = Philosophy
ʃ Philosophy = Religion
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: paul cotter on 02/02/2023 20:42:13
Sigh, yawn.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: The Spoon on 03/02/2023 07:23:23
ʃ Mathematics = Physics
ʃ Physics = Chemistry
ʃ Chemistry = Biology
ʃ Biology = History
ʃ History = Archeology
ʃ Archeology = Anthropology
ʃ Anthropology = Sociology
ʃ Sociology = Psychology
ʃ Psychology = Philosophy
ʃ Philosophy = Religion
Your point is?
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 03/02/2023 08:37:13
However, I invite you to read the whole thing
If the synopsis peaks my curiosity I will, otherwise I don't think so.
If I point out that the word is "piques" then this thread will serve some tiny purpose.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: aspagnito on 03/02/2023 09:40:13
ʃ Mathematics = Physics
ʃ Physics = Chemistry
ʃ Chemistry = Biology
ʃ Biology = History
ʃ History = Archeology
ʃ Archeology = Anthropology
ʃ Anthropology = Sociology
ʃ Sociology = Psychology
ʃ Psychology = Philosophy
ʃ Philosophy = Religion
Your point is?
It's fantasy that created humans. It's social interactions that made us discover the undiscovered. Christ had blood type of B-, and after Christ the blood type B (individualist type blood) was popular in Europe. That made the science grow. Also alchemy (originated from naive thinking about christianity - Christ prove on the Cross that one can have input on things one shouldn't have input on). Also Christ prove that against all other religions physical is profanum and spiritual is sacrum - so everyone might do disguisting things in science saying, the dignity factor was okay. And in XI-XIII century the roman Catholic Church stated the thing we now call system. And that was the basis for scientiffical method. Those things proove that We're getting somewhere - evolution is not blind, and there is a reason why we have both legs, armse, belly, back, neck and head. Humanoid is the highest form in the Universe.

p.s. I'm not saying Christ had kids. I'm saying it was a sign.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: The Spoon on 03/02/2023 11:26:10
ʃ Mathematics = Physics
ʃ Physics = Chemistry
ʃ Chemistry = Biology
ʃ Biology = History
ʃ History = Archeology
ʃ Archeology = Anthropology
ʃ Anthropology = Sociology
ʃ Sociology = Psychology
ʃ Psychology = Philosophy
ʃ Philosophy = Religion
Your point is?
It's fantasy that created humans. It's social interactions that made us discover the undiscovered. Christ had blood type of B-, and after Christ the blood type B (individualist type blood) was popular in Europe. That made the science grow. Also alchemy (originated from naive thinking about christianity - Christ prove on the Cross that one can have input on things one shouldn't have input on). Also Christ prove that against all other religions physical is profanum and spiritual is sacrum - so everyone might do disguisting things in science saying, the dignity factor was okay. And in XI-XIII century the roman Catholic Church stated the thing we now call system. And that was the basis for scientiffical method. Those things proove that We're getting somewhere - evolution is not blind, and there is a reason why we have both legs, armse, belly, back, neck and head. Humanoid is the highest form in the Universe.

p.s. I'm not saying Christ had kids. I'm saying it was a sign.
That word salad is utter nonsense. Blood type being due to popularity? Do you think people choose their blood type. Even by the standards of this section, this crap is a new low.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 11/02/2023 20:19:47
The Gaussian curve (a normal distribution) has found its application in psychology. So far, it has not been used in sociology, except for statistics. As it turns out, it can take a prominent place in sociological theory, which is a great novelty. However, the use of the logistic curve - to describe social evolution - seems revolutionary, and is even greater novelty (see first post in this thread).
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 07/03/2023 14:50:47
The formulation of the cognitive sociological theory, theory of cooperation and the use of the brain model and the neural network are also a big novelty.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 28/03/2023 15:47:39
there would be a higher vacuum (vacuum above the cosmic vacuum)
That's word salad.
You have assumed nonsense.
That's not a good basis for science or for anything else.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 16/07/2023 10:56:41
I added a part:
"The most fundamental property of the whole population is development or evolution. The culture or civilization develops as well as the population itself. The second most fundamental property of the whole population is its structure. The population is ordered. It is possible to order the population, for example, through the ownership of financial resources, i.e. through wealth. The third most fundamental property of a population is its numerical size. The fourth most fundamental property of population is that it constitutes a culture. The fifth most fundamental property of a population is its level of development.
In my theory, I use the logistic jump model to describe population evolution. Where the old population is replaced by the new, both in culture, where a backward culture is replaced by a technical one, and in the population itself, where completely new members of society appear alongside the old incarnations. To describe the structure, I use the normal distribution model, where I order the population in terms of cognitive level. As for size, the logistic jump model seems to best describe the process of population growth. And here again the old, small population is replaced by a new, very numerous population. As for the culture, the old backward culture has been replaced by a new technical one. As for the level of development, four basic levels can be distinguished. Backward, technical, developed technical and highly developed technical culture. There are cultures of varying degrees of development in the cosmos, including developed and highly developed technical cultures. Our culture is technical culture."
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/07/2023 11:32:46
I added a part:
You should have stared by fixing the previous parts.
We don't need more of the wrongness.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: paul cotter on 16/07/2023 12:07:18
I cannot understand how one could write such a quantity of absolute nonsense, I could not do it, even if handsomely remunerated. I have come across similar waffle before, the late retired colonel Thomas e Bearden( caution!: mental health advisory ) comes to mind.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/07/2023 12:26:33
I could not do it, even if handsomely remunerated.
Do you mean like this?
https://www.futureshop.co.uk/quantum-science-audio-red-black-high-end-uk-mains-fuse?
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: paul cotter on 16/07/2023 16:05:13
WOW, BC, i'm dumbfounded. That takes audiophoolery to new heights. Mind you, it's a quantum fuse so I would imagine that it exists in a state of superposition, ie blown/healthy until the relevant device is switched on. To be sure of a successful switch on one would need quite a number of these to minimise the probability of a blown state. Nah, not for me, i'll stick with the tried and trusted aluminium foil wrapped round an existing blown fuse( only joking, never ever use such a makeshift replacement for the proper fuse )
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: alancalverd on 16/07/2023 16:59:38
Problem is that they are entangled, so if one blows, they all go. DO NOT BUY!
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/07/2023 18:07:17
That was only entry-level quackery.
You can go full "audiophool".
https://www.futureshop.co.uk/quantum-science-audio-gold-extreme-level-uk-mains-fuse
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: paul cotter on 16/07/2023 18:41:21
BC, i'm flabbergasted, no correction I am lost for words how anyone could be so stupid as to buy such bullshit. I give up, I must be on the wrong planet. Alancalverd has the subscript 'helping to stem the tide of ignorance' on his posts. He is in error, it's a veritable tsunami of ignorance.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 31/08/2023 07:47:48
In paragraph 18 I added a part:

In addition to the brain model, a model of the cerebral cortex should be considered. The cortical model would agree with the size of the population at the end of the logistic jump, since the number of cells in the cerebral cortex is about 10 billion. The cortical model also agrees with network concepts.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 27/10/2023 06:42:57
The property of evolution can be considered in two ways. It will be social evolution on the one hand, and the biological evolution of the human species on the other. The evolution of the species should in the future lead to the replacement of the old species of man with a new species of superman. Intermediate links leading to a new species can be observed in a population, an example of such an intermediate link may be A. Einstein. Einstein's 1921 photograph shows the features of a intermediate link. Let's call them "drooping eyebrows", which is a sign of an enlarged braincase (see wikipedia Albert Einstein, subsection: Life and career, subsection: 1921-1923: Coming to terms with fame).
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 26/11/2023 14:44:45
The threat of Hitler's return in another incarnation and his triggering of a nuclear war could, of course, change the logistics model into a model with a sudden collapse.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 16/01/2024 21:17:26
Correct and incorrect social processes can be distinguished. Nowadays, incorrect social processes include the creation and existence of totalitarian, communist and Nazi systems. The rise and existence of, among others, the Soviet Union and communist China. For example, the center of Shanghai can be considered an example of the most developed ultramodern architecture (see google, Shanghai, images), but this effect was obtained as a result of an incorrect social process. Therefore, it would be better if this city center was not built at all, and the appropriate development should take place within the framework of normal democratic systems. However, the example of Shanghai shows that governments with large state participation (alongside the free market) may turn out to be a beneficial phenomenon.
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 19/03/2024 09:51:01
Nota bene other "known" German can soon have "a significant" influence on social phenomena. One can believe or not into theory of reincarnation, but for my money this is one from religious conceptions which is valid - of course after certain and pretty thorough corrections, for example conception of karma is in big degree a superstition. Now in years 2040-2070 or 2090-2120 (what less probable, similarly as admissible whole range 2070-2120), it can be expected following public activity of A.Hitler. This information can appear insomuch important that probably he will lead to unleashing of nuclear war, what predictably will cause annihilation of biosphere. It is worth to notice that if he caused eruption of World War II so on the same basis his future political activity is practically tantamount with eruption of world war III (more in my text Return of a big danger...).
Title: Re: New theory of social evolution and social structure
Post by: cpu68 on 08/05/2024 08:10:36
The best state structure is one where the division is half and half, half state, half free market.