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Can rust be removed by an electric field?

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Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« on: 21/04/2022 12:34:55 »
Hi. I found how to remove rust using electric field. There is ultrasound rust removals, electrolysis rust removals, and now will be electric field rust removals.

Electric field rust removals are the same as electrolysis rust removals, only that electrodes are outside the water tank.
This makes all this big water wall isolation capacitor. For the purpose, hope you understood my expression.

Need high frequency, high voltage. I used 120V, 60Hz AC and it worked. After 15min you start to see rust coming off the metal in form of a could, like a smoke comes off the metal.

Another unusual effect that, rust removed only from ferromagnetic material, dielectric and paramagnetic don't react with capacitor field surrounded by water.

Now I will try to boost it with microwave transformer to see the effects, and not only the transformer, hope it works.. And also I want to try extract hydrogen and oxygen this way. If it works, if it works, will be no longer need of catalyzer plates. Can be used small peace's or granules. This way might be better than electrolysis.

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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #1 on: 21/04/2022 15:11:12 »
You can not use water as the insulator in a capacitor.*
It is a (poor) conductor.
Since you do not seem to know what you are doing, I suggest you get better advice before playing with higher voltages.


* well.. you can at very high frequencies but that's not relevant here.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #2 on: 21/04/2022 15:58:36 »
yeah, I can. I just did it.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #3 on: 21/04/2022 15:59:02 »
and, it worked.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #4 on: 21/04/2022 18:34:14 »
I am horrified by the trend of people who have no real grasp of science messing around with microwave oven tranformers. somebody will die. the voltage involved backed by high current delivery is absolutely lethal.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #5 on: 21/04/2022 18:47:18 »
Quote from: paul cotter on 21/04/2022 18:34:14
I am horrified by the trend of people who have no real grasp of science messing around with microwave oven tranformers. somebody will die. the voltage involved backed by high current delivery is absolutely lethal.

I didnt try microwave, yet. But I will, as soon as I get together all of the protection I need.

But I know how to make oil using a microwave, that oil is used to make biodiesel.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #6 on: 21/04/2022 18:47:55 »
In my understanding electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations. Depending on vibrations u get different results. different names for electrons.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #7 on: 21/04/2022 19:00:20 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 18:47:55
In my understanding electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations.
In reality, it is not.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #8 on: 21/04/2022 19:13:54 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/04/2022 19:00:20
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 18:47:55
In my understanding electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations.
In reality, it is not.

Why. No one have any other proof.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #9 on: 21/04/2022 19:26:43 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 19:13:54
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/04/2022 19:00:20
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 18:47:55
In my understanding electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations.
In reality, it is not.

Why. No one have any other proof.

Have you looked?
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #10 on: 21/04/2022 19:33:41 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/04/2022 19:26:43
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 19:13:54
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/04/2022 19:00:20
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 21/04/2022 18:47:55
In my understanding electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations.
In reality, it is not.



Why. No one have any other proof.

Have you looked?

yes.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #11 on: 21/04/2022 20:57:35 »
And where did you see evidence that "electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations."?
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #12 on: 21/04/2022 22:55:52 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34
electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations
Does this sound like a layman's interpretation of quantum field theory?
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #13 on: 21/04/2022 23:25:24 »
Hi.

Quote from: evan_au on 21/04/2022 22:55:52
Does this sound like a layman's interpretation of quantum field theory?
    Possibly.

    Someone said water and electricity and also taking the transformer out of a microwave oven.  I think I just closed my eyes and stopped reading after that.    @vdblnkr34  you probably shouldn't be trying this at home.

Best Wishes.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #14 on: 23/04/2022 01:05:13 »
Its always good to test something in microwave, or using microwave transformer. Experimenting with microwave I found out how to make biodiesel from car tires.  8)
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #15 on: 23/04/2022 11:13:47 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 23/04/2022 01:05:13
Experimenting with microwave I found out how to make biodiesel from car tires. 
No, you did not.
You might have found a way to produce some oily stuff that will fuel a diesel engine.
But it is not biodiesel, essentially because it isn't "bio".
Also, unless you found a mechanism to remove the sulphur, what you have is something that will corrode the engine.

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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #16 on: 23/04/2022 12:49:47 »
No. i did not, still looking how to do that. I have seen the picture how removed in the past, on the factories, but cant repeat at home.

The only thing I found is that sulphur easier to be removed while this oil is vapor.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #17 on: 23/04/2022 13:36:50 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/04/2022 20:57:35
And where did you see evidence that "electricity is a some kind of movable vibrations."?

Not much.
Experiments with electric impulses. The way electricity travels, reacts to isolated materials.

Example:
A tiny electric impulse was send through the metal ring, than something split impulse into two equal impulses, when two impulses reach the other side and met, they canceled themselves immediately.

Long time ago voltage or current (not sure) was electronic pressure.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #18 on: 23/04/2022 13:50:06 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 23/04/2022 12:49:47
No. i did not, still looking how to do that.
And , since biodiesel has to have less than 10 ppm of sulphur, you did not make biodiesel.

So why did you tell this lie?

Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 23/04/2022 01:05:13
I found out how to make biodiesel from car tires.
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Re: Can rust be removed by an electric field?
« Reply #19 on: 23/04/2022 13:51:02 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 23/04/2022 13:36:50
Not much.
Experiments with electric impulses. The way electricity travels, reacts to isolated materials.

Example:
A tiny electric impulse was send through the metal ring, than something split impulse into two equal impulses, when two impulses reach the other side and met, they canceled themselves immediately.
That is gibberish.
Can you show pictures of the experiment and the results?
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