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Title: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/05/2007 00:22:44
Hello,

I'm neil...and you are ?..


This is some candles.

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techtickerblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2006%2F10%2Fled-blow-off-on-candles.jpg&hash=317c6d5429a0c500fb2b90d8e29fda5d)

Nice aren't they ?....................................(LOL..are you lot getting fed up with my new trend of posting a piccy and then saying that it's nice ?)


...anyway....I have heard that a candle will burn considerably longer if first placed in the freezer for a few hours ..is this true ?

.........and ...is there a compromise in the nature of the flame of a frozen candle ie: is it smaller ?

Because I really don't know....!!..do ewe ?

Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Batroost on 12/05/2007 00:30:43
Don't know - Try it!

But it could be true - candles burn in the way that they do because wax around the flame is melted, moves up the wick by capillary action and then burns - making heat which melts more of the surrounding wax etc...

Perhaps if the candle starts off colder overall, you get less wax melting and the candle might burn slower? [???]

Definite case for a simple experiment. You could make it clearer by keeping one of the candles in a bucket of ice after taking it out of the freezer so that it stays colder.
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: paul.fr on 12/05/2007 03:33:34
Like the man says, do the experiment and post it you know where!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/05/2007 03:42:50
Don't know - Try it!

But it could be true - candles burn in the way that they do because wax around the flame is melted, moves up the wick by capillary action and then burns - making heat which melts more of the surrounding wax etc...

Perhaps if the candle starts off colder overall, you get less wax melting and the candle might burn slower? [???]

Definite case for a simple experiment. You could make it clearer by keeping one of the candles in a bucket of ice after taking it out of the freezer so that it stays colder.


Ok...I will  be Robin.....Batroort & Robroost !!

As a firm believer in empirical study I will conduct said experiment on the morrow else amidst the next few days !



Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/05/2007 03:43:57
Like the man says, do the experiment and post it you know where!

Ewe're right of course. It will be done.
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 12/05/2007 04:26:32
neil i think it's a very nice introduction. lol.... and i went and got some pepsi after the other one
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/05/2007 04:28:39
LOL power of suggestion!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Batroost on 12/05/2007 20:42:09
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As a firm believer in empirical study I will conduct said experiment on the morrow else amidst the next few days !

Great - let us know how it turns out.  [:)]
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 12/05/2007 20:45:44
Can I just point out that all the candles I have used burn shorter.
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Batroost on 12/05/2007 20:47:29
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Can I just point out that all the candles I have used burn shorter

Unless you continue to count the wax dribbling off the table?
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 13/05/2007 04:55:56
if they are not taper candles they don't usually drip
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/05/2007 13:28:08
Candles should not be left burning that close to the edge of the table and they should be used in conjunction with a propper candle holder.
Oops!, looks like my day job in health and safety crept in there for a minute.
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 13/05/2007 13:41:42
Have you done it yet Neil? [;D]
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2007 22:28:23
Have you done it yet Neil? [;D]

Not yet !!.....

I found something extraordinary out this weekend that meant I just could not peform the experiment !









I've got no candles !!!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: paul.fr on 13/05/2007 22:32:04
Have you done it yet Neil? [;D]

Not yet !!.....

I found something extraordinary out this weekend that meant I just could not peform the experiment !









I've got no candles !!!

Did you do the lemonade one?
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2007 22:40:52
*blushing*......oops...not yet !!...I WILL do it !!!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 13/05/2007 22:43:47
neil i have plenty of candles. here, catch!!!! **throws candles to neil**
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2007 22:54:39
neil i have plenty of candles. here, catch!!!! **throws candles to neil**


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!   *grabs the air and catches candle luff*  [;)]

THANK EWE Kadie !!  [;D]

Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 13/05/2007 23:12:02
Yes.. Now shove the candles in the freezer. [;)]
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 13/05/2007 23:38:47
you know what? i'll do it when i get home tonight. i have a bunch of those little tea light candles. i'll freeze one and burn another not frozen one
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 13/05/2007 23:42:18
you know what? i'll do it when i get home tonight. i have a bunch of those little tea light candles. i'll freeze one and burn another not frozen one

Excellent....and will ewe please post piccys too....?...can we have your face in them too cos you're gorgeous !!  (no sexist comment there of cousre )
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 13/05/2007 23:54:34
pictures of them burning? like, what time frame? when the non frozen one goes out and the other one is still burning? thank you by the way! i feel so pretty right now!!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 13/05/2007 23:55:41
oh, and how long should i leave it in the freezer? two or three hours i would think. but they ARE tiny...
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 14/05/2007 00:13:00
If they are tiny...then I suspect all you'd need is an hour !


I would take a piccy of when you've just lit them...then again half way through...and again just as the first one is going to burn out.

It will be intersteing to see if the flame is different for each one too !!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 00:17:33
yes. maybe i'll put it in for an hour and a half just to be sure...
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 03:04:56
they're in the freezer. i'm burning 2 frozen and 2 not frozen just in case i have one abnormal candle. well, i'm not burning them until they are out of the freezer of course
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 03:57:29
very interesting.... after twenty minutes of burning the flames are the same size. the nonfrozen candles are melting just slightly faster, BUT the frozen ones have cracked like an ice cube!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 04:28:39
this may have worked better with larger candles. they seem to have thawed themselves. they're still a little behind the other ones, but it's not that big a difference
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 14/05/2007 05:05:18
They cracked?? That is interesting!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 05:07:09
yes i was amazed. tried to take a picture but the fact that they were burning made that impossible
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 14/05/2007 05:13:07
huh that is odd though!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 14/05/2007 13:39:46
they finished at the same time but i threw some bigger candles in the fridge before work so i'll try again when i get home
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: kdlynn on 15/05/2007 02:29:19
uh.... the... um.... the frozen ones definitely burned faster... and went out first... i am dumbfounded
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Batroost on 15/05/2007 17:54:24
I'll have to think about that one!
Title: Re: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 15/05/2007 23:06:02
The frozen one melted faster?
Title: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: julyeli on 10/01/2009 20:36:43
ive tried this experiment bfr, the frzn candle burns shorter, y?
Title: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: julyeli on 10/01/2009 20:38:20
because my mom always froze candles, so i tested her theory, and she was wrong!
Title: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: julyeli on 10/01/2009 20:39:18
i think its because the candles r used to the cold temperature so when the flame heats it up...
Title: why do Frozen Candles Burn Longer...Why's that then ?
Post by: julyeli on 10/01/2009 20:39:38
the candle melts faster

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