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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Does sodium chlorite have healing powers?
« on: 07/01/2012 08:27:16 »
Also that "Humble" bloke doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
Here are a couple of quotes
"resultant solution is always mixed into a glass of water or apple juice and taken orally"
"Significant amounts of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) must not be present at any point in the mixtures or else this will quench the chlorine dioxide (ClO2).
Now, since there's vitamin C in apple juice...
Significant amounts of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) must not be present at any point
He didn't say No vitamin C he said Significant amounts . Since activating with citric acid continues to produce sodium chloride for the next 45 minutes to an hour. small amounts wont have a significant effect on its ability to kill pathogens and bacteria and virus's.....just might slow it down but not completely render it useless. Pay attention to what your reading so that you dont do to yourself what you are attempting to do to Mr Humble. and that is lose all credibility in your OPINIONS. Resarch the use of this product for other ailments besides Malaria. Why are you so hung up on its effect on Malaria. Are other ailments insignificant and unworthy of a better cheaper cure just because you find flaws in its treatment of ONE specific ailment? Or do you have other motives for your BIASED and flawed conclusions regarding chlorine dioxide? And are resulting in your pack animal instinct to attack the weakest link because you realize to attack it head on would be suicide and you would be crushed? Im positive your not motivated out of your desire to help people because if you were you would put a little more effort into your research and be adament about the facts that it produced, regardless of who's side they benefit.Your rush to judgements complete with as many errors as you claim Jim Humbles has, makes your motivation for doing so completely see-through and also renders your credibility non-existent at best. So again my curiosity compells me to ask the origin of your motivation for attempting to villianize a product and the person attatched to that product when the facts clearly show the benefits this produces are off the charts and the harmfull effects of this product are NOT less than off the charts....they are NON-EXISTENT. This product has been proven to be almost impossible to harm you. Unless of course a few grains of table salt are harmfull to you.Is money more important to you than seeing a person healed of an affliction that prescription drugs has, so far, only managed to mask the affliction while producing bonus NEW afflictions in your body in its attempt to "Manage" the first affliction thus resulting in you having to take yet another prescription to deal with the new affliction that the first prescription was attempting to "Manage". etc etc...You see why the pharmacuticle industry is scared to death of this product. It eliminates BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars no longer spent on the never ending prescription drugs that have been engineered and designed to be a never ending source of income for those "Legal" drug dealers.
While we are at it,
"For the same reason antioxidant supplements should not be taken on the day of treatment. "
Now, in the real world it's not just suplements that contain anti oxidants. Food does too.
How come the people taking this stuff are not advised to avioid foods with antioxidants in them? (and BTW, that's a lot of foods you would need to "restrict".
Unless the people involved in the trial happened not to eat any fresh fruit or veg they would kill this "medicine".
Were they all living on meat pies?
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AGAIN, its Significant amounts he is advising people to refrain from. There is a middle ground in every situation in life and anybody with any common sense regardless of medical training, knows that avoiding anything entirely is not only unhealthy but more than likely impossible.So with that in mind as a GIVEN, the intelligent person understands that the term "Significant amounts " means to avoid taking supplements with antioxidants directly and in raw form because that would fall into the category of "Significant amounts " .Enough to outlast the continued reproduction of chlorine dioxide the the 28% solution produces during each dose. So having small amounts in the system such as the small amounts apple juices produce and the even smaller amounts that NATURAL apple juice produces is not enough to completely render the Chlorine dioxide useless.
here is a quote from a website explaining a little bit about this particular subject:
http://www.cancertutor.com/AIDS/Chlorine_AIDS.html
READ every word on the label of any apple juice or grape juice you buy. Make sure it does not have any ADDED Vitamin C (i.e. any added "ascorbic acid").
This gets complicated, so pay close attention. ALL apple juice and purple grape juice have vitamin C naturally. Thus, if you look at the list of vitamins it will probably list vitamin C.
That is fine if vitamin C is listed in the vitamins. HOWEVER, it is NOT FINE if vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is ADDED as a preservative.
Thus, you MUST MAKE SURE that all vitamin C in the drink is naturally in the juice, and that NO Vitamin C (i.e. ascorbic acid) has been ADDED to the juice.
Some people are so afraid of Vitamin C being added to their apple juice or grape juice that they simply use distilled water to dilute the chlorine dioxide. Distilled water is perfectly fine to dilute the new batch of chlorine dioxide.
Here are a couple of quotes
"resultant solution is always mixed into a glass of water or apple juice and taken orally"
"Significant amounts of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) must not be present at any point in the mixtures or else this will quench the chlorine dioxide (ClO2).
Now, since there's vitamin C in apple juice...
Significant amounts of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) must not be present at any point
He didn't say No vitamin C he said Significant amounts . Since activating with citric acid continues to produce sodium chloride for the next 45 minutes to an hour. small amounts wont have a significant effect on its ability to kill pathogens and bacteria and virus's.....just might slow it down but not completely render it useless. Pay attention to what your reading so that you dont do to yourself what you are attempting to do to Mr Humble. and that is lose all credibility in your OPINIONS. Resarch the use of this product for other ailments besides Malaria. Why are you so hung up on its effect on Malaria. Are other ailments insignificant and unworthy of a better cheaper cure just because you find flaws in its treatment of ONE specific ailment? Or do you have other motives for your BIASED and flawed conclusions regarding chlorine dioxide? And are resulting in your pack animal instinct to attack the weakest link because you realize to attack it head on would be suicide and you would be crushed? Im positive your not motivated out of your desire to help people because if you were you would put a little more effort into your research and be adament about the facts that it produced, regardless of who's side they benefit.Your rush to judgements complete with as many errors as you claim Jim Humbles has, makes your motivation for doing so completely see-through and also renders your credibility non-existent at best. So again my curiosity compells me to ask the origin of your motivation for attempting to villianize a product and the person attatched to that product when the facts clearly show the benefits this produces are off the charts and the harmfull effects of this product are NOT less than off the charts....they are NON-EXISTENT. This product has been proven to be almost impossible to harm you. Unless of course a few grains of table salt are harmfull to you.Is money more important to you than seeing a person healed of an affliction that prescription drugs has, so far, only managed to mask the affliction while producing bonus NEW afflictions in your body in its attempt to "Manage" the first affliction thus resulting in you having to take yet another prescription to deal with the new affliction that the first prescription was attempting to "Manage". etc etc...You see why the pharmacuticle industry is scared to death of this product. It eliminates BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars no longer spent on the never ending prescription drugs that have been engineered and designed to be a never ending source of income for those "Legal" drug dealers.
While we are at it,
"For the same reason antioxidant supplements should not be taken on the day of treatment. "
Now, in the real world it's not just suplements that contain anti oxidants. Food does too.
How come the people taking this stuff are not advised to avioid foods with antioxidants in them? (and BTW, that's a lot of foods you would need to "restrict".
Unless the people involved in the trial happened not to eat any fresh fruit or veg they would kill this "medicine".
Were they all living on meat pies?
[/quote]
AGAIN, its Significant amounts he is advising people to refrain from. There is a middle ground in every situation in life and anybody with any common sense regardless of medical training, knows that avoiding anything entirely is not only unhealthy but more than likely impossible.So with that in mind as a GIVEN, the intelligent person understands that the term "Significant amounts " means to avoid taking supplements with antioxidants directly and in raw form because that would fall into the category of "Significant amounts " .Enough to outlast the continued reproduction of chlorine dioxide the the 28% solution produces during each dose. So having small amounts in the system such as the small amounts apple juices produce and the even smaller amounts that NATURAL apple juice produces is not enough to completely render the Chlorine dioxide useless.
here is a quote from a website explaining a little bit about this particular subject:
http://www.cancertutor.com/AIDS/Chlorine_AIDS.html
READ every word on the label of any apple juice or grape juice you buy. Make sure it does not have any ADDED Vitamin C (i.e. any added "ascorbic acid").
This gets complicated, so pay close attention. ALL apple juice and purple grape juice have vitamin C naturally. Thus, if you look at the list of vitamins it will probably list vitamin C.
That is fine if vitamin C is listed in the vitamins. HOWEVER, it is NOT FINE if vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is ADDED as a preservative.
Thus, you MUST MAKE SURE that all vitamin C in the drink is naturally in the juice, and that NO Vitamin C (i.e. ascorbic acid) has been ADDED to the juice.
Some people are so afraid of Vitamin C being added to their apple juice or grape juice that they simply use distilled water to dilute the chlorine dioxide. Distilled water is perfectly fine to dilute the new batch of chlorine dioxide.