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That CAN'T be true! / Re: God real or not
« on: 18/10/2006 19:45:07 »quote:
Originally posted by another_someonequote:
Originally posted by bostjan
roman catholics were not the 'original' christian religion. that'd be the twelve disciples. the coptic christians are much closer than roman catholics to the practices of the disciples.
but yeah, that's a great point! what if only jehovah's witnesses are right?
Technically, the twelve disciples were Jews, not Christians. Exactly where one draws the historic line between early Christianity and Judaism is difficult. Clearly, by the time the Roman Empire adopted Christianity (and not Judaism) they were separate, but what the Roman Empire adopted was what we now regard as the Greek Orthodox form of Christianity, but by the time that was adopted there were already many different variants of Christianity (in fact, since there was not prior to Christianity becoming the State religion of the Roman Empire and standardising body for Christianity, there would have been no standard Christianity).George
I have to disagree with two things you said. Christian means literally 'follower of Christ.' If you believe Jesus of Nazareth to be the one called 'Christ,' then a) The disciples were the first followers of Christ, because they not only followed him around, but they followed his teachings and b) the start of Christianity was the same as the start of Jesus's teachings.
It is semantical and quite a simple line of thinking.
But yes, of course the disciples were Jews. If you read my post, I mentioned 'coptics.' If you do a little research, you will find that the coptic denomination was spread by Jews like St. Mark and Theophilus, but I didn't say they were the first Christians, just that they are closer than Roman Catholics.