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You are using your own moral judgement to make decisions about your own actions; this is fine as long as it does no harm to the rest of the society you live in. There are plenty of cases where this is not an acceptable course of action though; militant religious extremism for example and, as you have alluded to, some animal rights movements. Regrettably there are often problems with idealism.
anthropomorphising the animal, and so my feelings are not reliable, and also not a currently sustainable view in the society we live in.
there are structural similarities in the nervous systems and it is likely that distress in such animals can be compared with that in humans; in that I agree.
also not a currently sustainable view in the society we live in.
Comparing past treatment of black slaves to today's treatment of animals is fallacious. It is a straw man argument. That the slave trade often treated the slaves as they would livestock is true. That this was wrong was, primarily, because they were human and not because humans should not treat any creature this way.
If there were a colony of apes about to be killed off by diseases spread by rats and the only option was to kill the rats then I would do that if it were in my power and there were no other viable option. I would make the decision that the apes were worth more than the rats. It may be hard to justify this, and probably impossible from your standpoint, but I would guess that most people would agree to this. If it were one species of ape versus another species of ape this would make the decision very hard but with knowledge and power comes responsibility. To them we are playing at being a God.
You should read about whether a 3 month fetus is sentient or not. You were debating the possibility of whether flies should be harmed the other day and yet take a pro-choice viewon abortion. I don't disagree with your choice but I do not find it at all consistant with your views on how to treat animals. Stem cell research is fine with me too because a Zygote has no nervous system. A 3 month fetus is considerably developed however. There was much debate on the legality of whether there should be elective abortions at this point of development or whether the term should be shortened or lengthened. Not easy, but part of the responsibility I was talking about.
It is fully consistant; I would not kill a sentient, feeling creature whether it is an unborn child or a cow.
I'm not sure about the evidence or exact time, but there is a certain point where a fetus is unfeeling & unaware - it is a mass of cells, no more feeling than a rock.
That may or may not be true. At least a rock is by no means organic nor alive. I'd like to see your evidence for that statement. Frankly, I doubt you have any....................Ethos
Gloves, I guess we all have specific missions which we regard as ones worth pursuing. I am more active on a political website (with a pseudonym). I have enjoyed the discussion with you here though.
Fish Ok !! food chain of fish is very less .. it's Ok with fish not all other.