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But the values are different if you think once you die, you cease to exist.
Creation scientists, don't like the theory of evolution because it leads to what they think is a lesser sense of human dignity.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 16:08:29Religion and spirituality can make it harder to call others sub human. All of us are equal before the cross. It is for all races and classes...Can you cite an example of that working- where a war was stopped because someone pointed at the Bible and said "We are all brothers" or something?.Or is it just wishful thinking?Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 16:08:29I think it was Christian for the US constitution to come by: "All men are equal." It was largely written by slave owners.But, of course, that's OK. Christianity didn't have a problem with that.Well, not until civilisation pointed out that the Book was morally wrong.(You do know that the Bible tells you where to get your slave and how to keep them, don't you?)
Religion and spirituality can make it harder to call others sub human. All of us are equal before the cross. It is for all races and classes...
I think it was Christian for the US constitution to come by: "All men are equal."
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 12:01:06But the values are different if you think once you die, you cease to exist.Plenty of atheists believe in an afterlife. And I guess a lot of priests hope there isn't one.
Jesus was said to be, one man, dying for the nation instead of many dying. He is the grand example.
. In Northern Ireland the only helps I have heard them receive are Christian peace makers.
But slavery is not Australian.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 19:17:29Jesus was said to be, one man, dying for the nation instead of many dying. He is the grand example.I have bad news for you. It didn't work.Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 19:17:29. In Northern Ireland the only helps I have heard them receive are Christian peace makers. One of the main figures in that was Maggie- a dedicated follower of Mammon, not God.
Maggie's dad and early life practice was Wesleyan.
Now they do not have to die for their sins
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 19:17:29But slavery is not Australian.You don't need slaves if you have convict labour.I'm not sure how much more morally right it is.
Australia and the US are similar and yet pimping is a bigger industry in the US.
Religion and spirituality can make it harder to call others sub human.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/06/2020 21:59:12Australia and the US are similar and yet pimping is a bigger industry in the US.Well, Perhaps that's because the US population is about 74% Christian (with about 18 % atheists) while the Australian population is about 52% Christian (with about 30% atheists).
How does this make a difference to crime rates?
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 27/06/2020 17:06:21 the model of such pimping is taking off well in the US, Mexico and the Philippines....all deeply Christian countries, as were the homelands of the black slave traders. And AFAIK the tribal elders who sold their kinsmen into slavery were deeply religious too.
the model of such pimping is taking off well in the US, Mexico and the Philippines.
The slaves of yesteryear where war prisoners,
These days slaves are drawn from whichever young women are most attractive and not sufficiently protected.
What option do they have for elections
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 03/07/2020 06:57:30These days slaves are drawn from whichever young women are most attractive and not sufficiently protected.Not really. though that's part of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_centuryQuote from: Europan Ocean on 03/07/2020 06:57:30What option do they have for electionsAnyone but Trump.But he's the one exploiting religion.Simplistically, he's the one keeping the churches open during a a plague whereas science wants them closed.Religion is putting people in danger, and Trump is exploiting it- with the collusion of the churches.The evil man is the religious one.