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Title: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: AnthonyOliverMorganJr on 05/03/2015 19:13:33
Hello, I am new and have been thinking about the development of a vehicle capable of traveling the speed of light.
However we all know there are complications around such a travel, so I have thought towards overcoming these issues as well.
I hope to discuss it and obtain info and divulge info as well. At least let me know one thing though, can a magnet inside of a circular cutout (a magnet inside a magnet) dampen incoming forces?
I believe so, but would need to research it. Please anyone help thanks.
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: PmbPhy on 06/03/2015 06:30:11
Quote from: AnthonyOliverMorganJr
Hello, I am new and have been thinking about the development of a vehicle capable of traveling the speed of light.
Please don't take this as a rude remark or sarcasm. It isn't intended to be. It's only meant to be informative: Almost every other day a new member comes to one of the forums I frequent, claiming that they can eventually figure out how to go faster than the speed of light. The problem is that not one of them ever knew why its known to be impossible in the first place. Would you like to learn special relativity and find out why? If so then go to my web page at:
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/sr/sr.htm

and start reading. Unless you can figure out how to create or obtain exotic matter you're wasting your time because it's quite literally impossible otherwise.  Not because its too hard to do or because we don't have the engineering skills to do it. It's because the laws of physics forbid it.

If you want to try to figure out how to use exotic matter to go faster than the speed of light then you'll have to learn special relativity first and then go to my website at
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/gr/gr.htm

to learn general relativity. This is only an introduction to the subject and far from being any kind of tutorial.

Quote from: AnthonyOliverMorganJr
However we all know there are complications around such a travel, so I have thought towards overcoming these issues as well.
No. They aren't simply complications. It's impossible. To understand why please study my web page at
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/sr/inertial_mass.htm

Take a look at Eq. (17). Notice what happens to the mass when v = c or v > c.

Quote from: AnthonyOliverMorganJr
I hope to discuss it and obtain info and divulge info as well.
Now that you've obtained the info I had to offer what is this info you have to divulge to us?

Quote from: AnthonyOliverMorganJr
At least let me know one thing though, can a magnet inside of a circular cutout (a magnet inside a magnet) dampen incoming forces?
That's too little information to understand the problem. We'd need a diagram and know what kind of forces you're talking about. The only kind of force that a magnetic field can exert is a force on charged particles and current-carrying conductors.
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: jccc on 06/03/2015 07:29:58
Hello, I am new and have been thinking about the development of a vehicle capable of traveling the speed of light.
However we all know there are complications around such a travel, so I have thought towards overcoming these issues as well.
I hope to discuss it and obtain info and divulge info as well. At least let me know one thing though, can a magnet inside of a circular cutout (a magnet inside a magnet) dampen incoming forces?
I believe so, but would need to research it. Please anyone help thanks.

no way for light speed travel,  http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=54497.0

a flywheel can dampen incoming forces.
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: evan_au on 06/03/2015 08:59:32
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can a magnet inside of a circular cutout (a magnet inside a magnet) dampen incoming forces?
If you have two mognets with their "North" poles close together, they will repel each other. So if a sudden force is applied to one magnet, the other will accelerate more slowly, dampening the incoming force.

However, most configurations of two magnets are unstable; put them in close proximity and they will flip around so the North and South poles are adjacent. The magnets then stick together, and lose their dampening effect.

There are some magnet configurations that allow creation of stable magnetic bearings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_bearing).

By using computers to control electromagnets, it is possible to create a stable magnetic field which the computer continually adjusts to counteract the tendency to flip around.

But why use magnets? A magnetic field has a fairly short range, and the magnetic field strength decays as something like the cube of the distance, so they can only dampen forces over a very small range of distances.

In contrast, an ordinary spring is :

Physically fit humans in "G-Suits" can withstand short-term accelerations of 9G (9x weight of gravity).
For acceleration towards the speed of light, 1G acceleration will be easiest on the humans.

However, you need a lot of energy to drive this acceleration, and it is very hard to carry enough fuel and/or reaction mass for a rocket. How would this proposal power the acceleration?

Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: AnthonyOliverMorganJr on 08/03/2015 08:15:20
I am grateful for all the applied information.
I was particularly having trouble reading all those websites you had sent to me.
Though thank you for the info anyway. The info I was given from the websites did
not create any hinges in my implementation of this thought. Now again thank you all.
To begin, the magnets are very significant because with the right setup it could be used
to dampen the forces generated by traveling the speed of light.
Ok, now if we create a magnetic field strong enough and bring the fields to cross
we will generate a current or charge, using this, tap into the magnetic field
You could use the energy to power a navigational system and a clock and a camera.
Given that the energy created is great enough you would still have energy enough to travel
with. Using that remaining energy to push the spacecraft to the speed of light.
My design for creating the vehicle would actually be familiar to us, it is what we call a typical
UFO. Surprisingly it works best!  If we begin with a Positive magnet or a North sided magnet or a positively
charged magnet we can shape it into a dome, slightly broad, leave a good 5 inches of room between it and the
Circuitry necessary to operate the vehicle.  Then take the circuitry and mimic the dimensions of the first half of the magnet.
next form the remainder of the magnet and mimic the first in every way also do the same with the circuitry,  the difference
here is this side would be negatively charged or the south end of the magnet!
Build a cavity large enough in the center and there you have a spacecraft!
Now that's out of the way, we need to build an engine. I speculated that a lightening bolt should do the trick. If we can
harness the energy created by the magnet we could work on pushing this thing. In order to harness the energy created
by the magnet we would do so wirelessly! The technology is already figured out so implementation is key here.
Once that has been perfected (the implementation) then let it rip almost literally.
What I am saying is we need to not only tear a piece of the circuit by creating a loop back to the system
we need to tear out a portion of the generation!
Basically using the electrical production as an engine to propel through space.
There are some specifics I have left out but this is the general footing to my idea.
comments, criticism and enhancements are welcomed.
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: alancalverd on 08/03/2015 09:26:36
Where can you buy a magnetic monopole?
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: syhprum on 09/03/2015 21:27:28
One thing that these enthusiasts that wish to travel near the speed of light do not consider is the danger from near stationary micrometeorites with which they may well collide.
Even at the modest speed the ISS travels a fleck of paint is considered a danger while as you begin to approach light speed the photons of the CMBR become gamma rays
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: diethyl on 10/03/2015 07:13:22
I believe I couldn't go for a space travel even if 50 years later. It still be a very few people's activities.
Title: Re: possibility of humans traveling speed of light in next 50 years...
Post by: SorryDnoodle on 10/03/2015 21:11:37
I believe I couldn't go for a space travel even if 50 years later. It still be a very few people's activities.

The only way I see "space travel" will ever become "commonplace" is when(if) we get a space bridge up and running which is undoubtedly many, many years away.