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When moving along the gravitational field, PE varies but KE gets back to zero when stopping at the height you want to do the measurement. That could mean something, but my opinion is PE is not intrinsic of the clock, that is why it is called potential, the clock doesn't have it yet.
Anyone could, but no physicist would. We are far too pedantic and bound to the truth.
You might get someone to state that "When observed from a given point, electromagnetic waves and time pulses emitted from a higher gravitational potential appear to have a higher frequency than those generated by the same process locally. When observed from the same gravitational potential as the source, there is no difference, regardless of the mechanism of the source or the reference, or the gravitational potential at that point.
Therefore time is affected by gravitational potential.
A mathematical model based on this hypothesis has predicted every experimental result to date."
Anything less would have omitted important and relevant facts and conditions.
Quote from: Nilak on 26/04/2017 08:28:11When moving along the gravitational field, PE varies but KE gets back to zero when stopping at the height you want to do the measurement. That could mean something, but my opinion is PE is not intrinsic of the clock, that is why it is called potential, the clock doesn't have it yet.Ok look Nilak - for the purpose of illustration let's look at a damn that is producing electricity.A body of water is held at a higher gravity potential and within that water held at the higher potential there is the potential to produce x amount of electricity by converting potential energy into kinetic energy.Energy is always conserved, so where in this scenario does the potential energy reside?
If it is potential, the energy doesn't reside within the body but it is somewhere else, like in the gravitational field.
The redshift/blueshift of signals already results in time dilation. If you say the clocks change their frequency, as their potential energy changes, then it would mean the redshift / blueshift of light and signals doesn't happen.
Is this too much to ask?
If you travel one metre at a constant speed that is held relative to a longer or shorter 'variable' second. Then the distance remains the same, and it just takes a longer or shorter amount of 'time' to travel that metre.
Quote from: timey on 20/02/2017 19:10:21If you travel one metre at a constant speed that is held relative to a longer or shorter 'variable' second. Then the distance remains the same, and it just takes a longer or shorter amount of 'time' to travel that metre.That is a very pertinent point expressed with clarity. No one has as yet detected length contraction. If you maintained that clarity you would make much better progress.
If it has been detected I would be very interested in the reference.
However you measure time, it is the same for all systems at a given gravitational potential, but observably differs between points at different potentials. Interpreting observation is indeed what it's all about, but you haven't produced an observation that suggests anything like inverted time dilatation.
We observe electromagnetic radiation, for which m = 0.