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The Jesus Package.Chastity= The refusal to be dominated combined with the refusal to dominate. Chastity is dominions opposite.
Lets all be like Jacob and refuse to be dominated by God.
Moses was a liar and murderer who "struck" down a guard (killed and hid the body) and then needed help to escape, safety in numbers.Dont believe in those colours you see in the Hollywood films as most never existed at the time of Jesus. Read up on dyes and Liturgical colours. You will find that the colours red and purple were reserved for only those in high office such as Emperors or Kings. A tradition carried over to Catholic times when it became a symbol of wealth and religious status. It was very expensive to produce and commoners were severely punished if caught wearing them. Most colours at the time were drab blue/black, mixed browns and greys because of the limitations of the dyes. If I remember yellow is a fairly modern colour and I doubt if it existed at the time of Jesus.BTW. If you check you will find that The Matrix (films) was based on Revelations. Funny as you stated a while ago that no one knows what Revelations means and anyone that does is a liar.Sorry Sooyeah but each time you go on a religious rant, yes rant as this is no new theory, I feel it my duty as an agnostic to reply with like.
Quote from: Sooyeah on 19/11/2008 10:12:19The Jesus Package.Chastity= The refusal to be dominated combined with the refusal to dominate. Chastity is dominions opposite. I can find no definition of chastity that relates to dominion, domination or other forms of compulsion. All the definitions of chastity that I am aware of and can find relate it to self denial, primarily of sexual activity.Why is religion so preoccupied sex anyway?
"Why is religion so preoccupied sex anyway?"Because religion is interested in power and controling things that people want to do is one way to weild power.
"I can't either, but isn't the point of a 'chastity belt', to stop a woman being dominated by a man sexually? "It depends on who has the key.If some bloke has the key then that's domination by him.
Does any of this have anything to do with science? Does it put forward any meaningful theory?
...but isn't the point of a 'chastity belt', to stop a woman being dominated by a man sexually?
Didn't miss the point about Jacob, just interpreted it differently.
Moses was a murderer, it says so in Genesis hence the quote.The point about colours in history is correct.A lot of the ideas and symbolism in the Matrix films was borrowed from Revelations and other sources.Non science or Fiction vs fact!You seem to misunderstand, Chastity belts WAS about domination over the female and not about stopping male domination.
Quote...but isn't the point of a 'chastity belt', to stop a woman being dominated by a man sexually?No - you're still equating sex with women being dominated. A bit of news for you - women enjoy sex too - domination doesn't come in to it.
Quote from: LeeE on 21/11/2008 02:25:30Quote...but isn't the point of a 'chastity belt', to stop a woman being dominated by a man sexually?No - you're still equating sex with women being dominated. A bit of news for you - women enjoy sex too - domination doesn't come in to it.Well of course they do, but since when does that mean they want to have sex with just anyone?
Quote from: the grouve on 21/11/2008 10:18:56Quote from: LeeE on 21/11/2008 02:25:30Quote...but isn't the point of a 'chastity belt', to stop a woman being dominated by a man sexually?No - you're still equating sex with women being dominated. A bit of news for you - women enjoy sex too - domination doesn't come in to it.Well of course they do, but since when does that mean they want to have sex with just anyone?Huh? Who said that they want to have sex with just anyone? I don't follow your logic/reasoning here.
@ the grouveIts not about being disrespectful to Moses as I have NO respect for him (fictional character) but if he was proven to be real then the situation could change. It is generally accepted but conveniently forgotten that Moss struck down and killed a guard then hid the body and escaped with others (safety in numbers). It seems odd to me that God should chose a murderer to lead his people out of Egypt.
You need to read about what Moses got up to in the name of God and how he change Gods laws to suit or benefit himself, introducing a "tithe" was one. God also punished him by not allowing him to enter the promised land and God then chose another leader Joshua, a warrior.Even Christ when questioned about Moses changing Gods laws stated he (Moses) did what he did despite Gods words.
PS. This is a science forum so you should expect scientific evidence not theological dogma or fiction. I respect the living not the dead as the dead don't need any respect.
I am also of Jewish descent, hold no religious beliefs and go by what I have read. I don't just blindly follow without question as the faithful do. If you are unhappy by what is said then I am sorry but, not for what I have written as it is what is also written in the Holy books.
So, can we now have some science on this new theory, if not the perhaps it should be moved to "just chat"?