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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: neilep on 29/08/2007 00:17:12

Title: Does The Moon Affect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: neilep on 29/08/2007 00:17:12
Wocha,

Here's the moon around some planet called Earth that I'd like to visit one day !

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As you may or may not know the Earths tides are helped along by the gravitational effect of the Moon.

..but...does the moon also have an effect on land masses ?...and does it effect my weight when above me ?..ie: make me lighter ?


I don't know why but I just want to know !!


Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 29/08/2007 06:56:11
I would imagine that its effect on landmasses is negligible. However, a study by the BAS (British Antarctic Survey) has shown it to affect glaciers.
http://english.people.com.cn/200612/22/eng20061222_334956.html (http://english.people.com.cn/200612/22/eng20061222_334956.html)

As for whether or not it can affect people, it can; and this has been shown in studies. If the strength of its gravity is enough to pull billions of tons of oceanic water around then its enough to pull on the water in our cells of our bodies. And it will certainly make a minute difference to our weight (I wonder if it's factored into electronic scales  [???] ).

Here's a link to a site with lots of moon goodness!
http://www.wintersteel.com/Moon.html (http://www.wintersteel.com/Moon.html)
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: lightarrow on 29/08/2007 19:13:42

..but...does the moon also have an effect on land masses ?...and does it effect my weight when above me ?..ie: make me lighter ?
No, but make your hairs grow faster (and to werewolves even faster  [:)]).
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: Bored chemist on 29/08/2007 19:58:43
It does affect landmasses, things like the CERN accelerator need to take it into account (they may also need to take werewolves into account) I doubt that any normal set of scales would need to worry about it.
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: neilep on 29/08/2007 23:10:44
I would imagine that its effect on landmasses is negligible. However, a study by the BAS (British Antarctic Survey) has shown it to affect glaciers.
http://english.people.com.cn/200612/22/eng20061222_334956.html (http://english.people.com.cn/200612/22/eng20061222_334956.html)

As for whether or not it can affect people, it can; and this has been shown in studies. If the strength of its gravity is enough to pull billions of tons of oceanic water around then its enough to pull on the water in our cells of our bodies. And it will certainly make a minute difference to our weight (I wonder if it's factored into electronic scales  [???] ).

Here's a link to a site with lots of moon goodness!
http://www.wintersteel.com/Moon.html (http://www.wintersteel.com/Moon.html)

THANK YOU DOCTORBEAVER....and excellent links !...just send me all your Favourites will ya ?.

...I luff the moon..it's my favourite nearest fromage constructed natural satellite of the earth !!
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: neilep on 29/08/2007 23:12:09

..but...does the moon also have an effect on land masses ?...and does it effect my weight when above me ?..ie: make me lighter ?
No, but make your hairs grow faster (and to werewolves even faster  [:)]).

Is this true Alberto ?...gosh !!.....those astronauts must have returned to Earth well hairy !!
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: neilep on 29/08/2007 23:13:29
It does affect landmasses, things like the CERN accelerator need to take it into account (they may also need to take werewolves into account) I doubt that any normal set of scales would need to worry about it.

THANK YOU BC.....incredible that accelerators need to adjust for it...but understandable...thanks.
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 30/08/2007 12:32:47
It does affect landmasses, things like the CERN accelerator need to take it into account (they may also need to take werewolves into account) I doubt that any normal set of scales would need to worry about it.

They need to allow for the TGV between Paris & Geneva too.
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: eric l on 30/08/2007 12:53:03
I remember that farmers and market gardeners preferred "waxing moon" for planting or sowing, and "waning moon" for harvesting.  Some bio-dynamic gardeners stick to that rule, and I heard of bio-dynamic builders asking for a certificate that the wood they use has been felled in a waning moon phase.  Does this sound familiar in other areas of the world ?
In case you forgot :  waxing moon is from new moon to full moon and waning moon is from full moon to new moon.
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: lightarrow on 30/08/2007 16:19:24
I remember that farmers and market gardeners preferred "waxing moon" for planting or sowing, and "waning moon" for harvesting.  Some bio-dynamic gardeners stick to that rule, and I heard of bio-dynamic builders asking for a certificate that the wood they use has been felled in a waning moon phase.  Does this sound familiar in other areas of the world ?
In case you forgot :  waxing moon is from new moon to full moon and waning moon is from full moon to new moon.
Yes, they say so. They also say absolutely not to make wine during ascending moon (what you called waxing moon) because the reaction would be too strong; they also advise people to cut hairs on descending moon (waning moon), or they will grow again too early.
That's what they told me, don't know if it's true.
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: Andrew K Fletcher on 01/09/2007 09:50:17
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/319031/more_pets_rushed_to_emergency_during.html

Been saying that gravity drives the circulation but no one on here takes me serious :)
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: neilep on 02/09/2007 14:38:15
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/319031/more_pets_rushed_to_emergency_during.html

Been saying that gravity drives the circulation but no one on here takes me serious :)

I Hope that's not the case Andrew !
Title: Does The Moon Effect More Than The Tides ?
Post by: lyner on 02/09/2007 23:40:37
Gravitational fields are indistinguishable from acceleration.
The amount of acceleration on brains / unborn foetuses , etc  as you walk around will be much bigger than the effect of the Moon.
The reason that the tides in the sea are big is because 1. Water is very easy to move (a liquid) and 2. There are resonances in the oceans, allowing the effects to build up over  long periods of time. There is, effectively, a wave, running round the Earth's surface, which is constantly being augmented by the pulls of the Moon and Sun and the monthly  'wobble' of the Earth around the mutual centre of mass.
We seem to be in the realms of astrology, in this thread.
I remember reading that the gravitational disturbing effect of the mass of the midwife, close to the baby being born is far higher than  any effect due to the large but distant bodies up in space. The inverse square  law is very powerful.
I believe that, by far, the biggest effect of the Moon on living things is OPTICAL. It's due to the fact that, on a bright moonlit night, you can see much, much more than when there's no moon. That just has to affect predators and prey and their behavior - and how about photosynthesis, too?
Before street lamps, this effect must have been much more obvious.