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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: opportunity on 09/01/2019 09:53:39
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I have to apologise, firstly, for posting any songs in other member's thread to explain an idea. I've done what I can to clean that away, so please anyone who has noticed a song in their thread, alert me, and I'll delete it promptly.
Music and science as one, it's not the done thing, yet it seems to creep into my mannerism when I'm in the middle of a scientific debate....it makes me want to break into song....not all the time, of course, yet on the odd occasion.....to convey a deep meaning. It sounds nuts, yet take this: https://www.delamora.life/pythagoras/.
If a theory of everything could be explained, it would be great to make it almost musical in nature, a perfect harmony of understanding to our senses that connects us to our environment, would it not?
Who knows, will the TV show "The Big Bang Theory" become a "musical" one day? What are the odds? Not sure if the TV show "The Big Bang" theory is a perfect harmony....lol.
Please post anything here musical you think helps explain a scientific concept 8). It could even be a dramatic skit...like from Monty Python's "Meaning of Life"...anything.
The point here is how we can use external media to add oil to the cogs of thought.....lets see if that works, as a thought experiment.
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I'll get the ball rolling.
When I think of Pythagoras and mathematics/science, I think of Vangelis and Blade Runner:
It seems almost natural to have a type of futuristic wonderland of science and technology supported by a great soundtrack.
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The interesting thing about that clip is that it is set for November....."2019".
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This is another good musical score that features throughout the documentary "Before the Flood":
The documentary site: https://www.beforetheflood.com/
Science is not aimed to shoot us in the foot, and this is one of those testaments.
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Now, of course we can go all Pink Floyd into all the fundamental particles and forces.....
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I think "music" is one of those things that differentiates us from robots in the quest to understand time and space.....it's not like we are automatons who have to work out a theory.....we have a certain uniqueness, and "outside the square" soul to it all, an over-arching grace and artistic flavour.
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What do you think of this?
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Sitting back in a chair and focussing on that, if there was no music, its missing a lot, right? You'd be asking, "Cap-com, Houston, do you copy?"
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Here's a song from "Thirty Seconds to Mars"....
Is it like Mars is singing about the circles between Earth and Mars. I mean, who knows. The point is, there's a deep idea in our psyche that needs to be quenched beyond mere numbers and equations.
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Going back to childhood, here's a song about maths:
Music is so important I think.
Todays educational structures for children could be moving away from that? I'm not sure.
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There's a maths to this, right?:
It takes basic cords as concepts, and then puts more phrases and words to the basic cords and concepts.....to then return to the basic cords as concepts.
Its a great educational device.
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Here's something else:
Are we presenting ourselves in space as humans or technology?
Technology is perhaps the great thing communicating....allowing us to communicate in space....how would another species think not to try to communicate with our comm-items yet with us?
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In going for the great science theory, is it symbolised as an object of communication, or does it represent a way to see ourselves, and maybe not just see ourselves, yet "be" ourselves "beyond" technology and science?
For instance, let us say we are able to explain a link between EM and G, somehow....in theory, using theory.....
Ideally we would want to prove it works in the lab.
So we build a lab device that proves that, and then we can fly around defying gravity using EM. We've built something, sure, but have we explained who we are in that almost greater than human discovery? What's "our" moment of identification? We would have merely made something greater than ourselves.
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Some would say, "yes, but we would then have the power to fly out to the stars and join with those other communities not yet seen who have trail blazed the same path with technology".
Lets not try to communicate with aliens then, as an a-priori of our potential scientific achievement, right? Why? Any new sci-fi budding writers out there?
If other life out there has trail-blazed the same scientific path we have, the same need to organise their thoughts to build crafts and then communicate, through vast distances, its a craft meet and greet. How is that going to be back engineered into each of the species, that sharing? Star Trek presents "all" those ideas.....and I'm sure we're happy to see more ideas there, yet can we see the forest for the trees? How different can we be to a species that has the same key to understanding, what would be, warp technology?
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One of the better start trek soundtracks and plots comes with Deep Space 9:
Not popular....too much like Earth, it seems.
It speaks in volumes though re. the fan-based psychology of space exploration.
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Ok, I'm leaving it with the members, I've tried to show the potential of this thread.....enough of my thoughts in starting the conversation.
BoredChemist, PinkFloyd is "universal" with science, but why...how do they do that?
What do you think of this?
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There was a slight uproar when Pink Floyd offered this:
Some thought the "irresistible grass" was a metaphor for pot.
The same was said about John Denver re. "Rock Mountain High":
How would anyone know?
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Who has also experienced feeling comfortably numb with science: