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Time is a big part of Relativity but we each have a vague idea of what exactly we are referring to when we say time. In the relativistic view time is variable depending on your position in GR and speed in SR. We have to ask ourselves what is the common issue especially since there is an equivalence between GR and SR. Well we have to go with c as the constant because the measurement of c is the timed equivalence as a constant. Now we have to ask what is c? We measure the limit and consistency of c by the photon. You might be ahead of me at this point but here it is 'what is a photon?'. Here is what we know. A photon defines the parameters of energy by distance traveled. The photon is confounded in every frame with the electron cycle to measure the speed of light always the same in all frames. This does not mean the clock tick rate is the same in every frame only that the electron and photon move relative to each other in every frame. The clock tick rate is relative to the photon and electron which we recognize as energy. Where does energy come from? The electron moves as perpetual motion but how can perpetual motion exist? It cannot without a mechanical cause. So fundamental energy must be of space itself. What causes fundamental energy? That would be the next step of unknowns but electrons move by the energy state in which they exist. It is the electron that moves a clocks tick rate relative to c as energy. It is energy that moves the electrons perpetual motion. So:Time=Motion=EnergyIs there a logical argument against this line of reasoning?
Quote from: GoC on 20/02/2017 14:14:59 Time is a big part of Relativity but we each have a vague idea of what exactly we are referring to when we say time. In the relativistic view time is variable depending on your position in GR and speed in SR. We have to ask ourselves what is the common issue especially since there is an equivalence between GR and SR. Well we have to go with c as the constant because the measurement of c is the timed equivalence as a constant. Now we have to ask what is c? We measure the limit and consistency of c by the photon. You might be ahead of me at this point but here it is 'what is a photon?'. Here is what we know. A photon defines the parameters of energy by distance traveled. The photon is confounded in every frame with the electron cycle to measure the speed of light always the same in all frames. This does not mean the clock tick rate is the same in every frame only that the electron and photon move relative to each other in every frame. The clock tick rate is relative to the photon and electron which we recognize as energy. Where does energy come from? The electron moves as perpetual motion but how can perpetual motion exist? It cannot without a mechanical cause. So fundamental energy must be of space itself. What causes fundamental energy? That would be the next step of unknowns but electrons move by the energy state in which they exist. It is the electron that moves a clocks tick rate relative to c as energy. It is energy that moves the electrons perpetual motion. So:Time=Motion=EnergyIs there a logical argument against this line of reasoning? You are not defining time, you are defining motion through space- time. I will give a logical argument in a single diagram. What is the rate of time for a ''background''?
Quote from: Thebox on 21/02/2017 18:03:03Quote from: GoC on 20/02/2017 14:14:59 Time is a big part of Relativity but we each have a vague idea of what exactly we are referring to when we say time. In the relativistic view time is variable depending on your position in GR and speed in SR. We have to ask ourselves what is the common issue especially since there is an equivalence between GR and SR. Well we have to go with c as the constant because the measurement of c is the timed equivalence as a constant. Now we have to ask what is c? We measure the limit and consistency of c by the photon. You might be ahead of me at this point but here it is 'what is a photon?'. Here is what we know. A photon defines the parameters of energy by distance traveled. The photon is confounded in every frame with the electron cycle to measure the speed of light always the same in all frames. This does not mean the clock tick rate is the same in every frame only that the electron and photon move relative to each other in every frame. The clock tick rate is relative to the photon and electron which we recognize as energy. Where does energy come from? The electron moves as perpetual motion but how can perpetual motion exist? It cannot without a mechanical cause. So fundamental energy must be of space itself. What causes fundamental energy? That would be the next step of unknowns but electrons move by the energy state in which they exist. It is the electron that moves a clocks tick rate relative to c as energy. It is energy that moves the electrons perpetual motion. So:Time=Motion=EnergyIs there a logical argument against this line of reasoning? You are not defining time, you are defining motion through space- time. I will give a logical argument in a single diagram. What is the rate of time for a ''background''? Time is a measurement of motion. So what is the rate of a heart beat? You have to ask relative to what? Relative to how fast is the chart speed recording? How fast relative to c? How fast relative to the electron cycle? Time is a relative measurement only. How much depth is in your questions?
Mike The speed of light could be anything and there would be no going back to the past. That is si fi. Light is the measured distance for energy. Motion is caused by energy of the medium. Time as a clock measures the zero point energy state in your environment.BoxThe BB is a fairy tail named by a catholic priest. It follows their Bible. BH's proves a BB is not mathematically in the timeline of thirteen billion years. You and mainstream are just wrong mathematically in your theory. I trust math to negate a theory you and they do not. According to BH formation the universe has to be trillions of years old not just billions. So your understanding of time is a fairy tale.
Consider this , the said big bang, before the big bang there was nothing, from the big bang forwarding to now, time spread isotropic at an equal rate .
Quote from: Thebox on 22/02/2017 21:29:39 Consider this , the said big bang, before the big bang there was nothing, from the big bang forwarding to now, time spread isotropic at an equal rate . Sorry if you think I misjudged your statements.
Bravo phytiWe relate everything to c. c is a distance relative to motion with the photon considered total energy available. Time = Motion=Energy. So time measures the energy state of a frame. So potential energy decreases as the tick rate decreases. Gravity becomes an energy issue with mass being attracted to the lowest potential energy. This strongly suggests energy does not come from mass but is reduced by mass. Mass is only kinetic and not fundamental zero point energy.
Time is the measure of the rate of change.
Quote from: jeffreyH on 26/02/2017 14:08:19Time is the measure of the rate of change. No, that would be timing, if you are using rate of change you are timing that rate relative to time and relative to 0. I really do not think any of you understand what time is.
All you have is timing?
Quote from: GoC on 25/02/2017 13:25:03Bravo phytiWe relate everything to c. c is a distance relative to motion with the photon considered total energy available. Time = Motion=Energy. So time measures the energy state of a frame. So potential energy decreases as the tick rate decreases. Gravity becomes an energy issue with mass being attracted to the lowest potential energy. This strongly suggests energy does not come from mass but is reduced by mass. Mass is only kinetic and not fundamental zero point energy. I have been saying this for a while now, I also have been saying it is incorrect to relate everything to c, c is a speed, time does not equal motion or anything of such. Time=time and there is no equivalence to this so why do keep insisting on something that is not true? c is equivalent to the amount of ''time'' light travels between two points, the time exists whether the Photon makes its journey or not. If a photon was NOT to travel from the sun to earth, do you think time would stop? Obviously not, so why such absurdity when time continues in the ''dark'' with no c and no motion and even no E in absolute darkness?