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https://www.englishforums.com/English/HidingInPlainSight/vvphr/post.htmohttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=To%20pull%20a%20TrumpOr perhaps a very very bad casehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Have you ever wondered why in the years immediatley following the credit crunch we had long term sustained snow in europe in the midst of climate change. This sort of snowfall had not been seen since the 1980s, yet know one seemed to notice this large period of snowfall and cooling in the middle of all the talk about global warming.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 21/01/2019 00:34:59Have you ever wondered why in the years immediatley following the credit crunch we had long term sustained snow in europe in the midst of climate change. This sort of snowfall had not been seen since the 1980s, yet know one seemed to notice this large period of snowfall and cooling in the middle of all the talk about global warming. NoI have not wondered about it, because I understand, at least some of, the science involved.I recognise that, just because some places are cooling at some times of years, that does not mean that the planet as a whole is warming.In fact, I see that global warming may easily lead to local cooling. Where I live, the gulf stream does a pretty good job of keeping the place warm.But the mechanisms that drive it may be brought to a halt by global warming.Donald Trump, as far as I can tell from what he says, does not realise that distinction.Of course, it's possible that he does understand it but lies with a view to getting votes and support for his short termist policies.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/01/2019 21:27:43Quote from: Petrochemicals on 21/01/2019 00:34:59Have you ever wondered why in the years immediatley following the credit crunch we had long term sustained snow in europe in the midst of climate change. This sort of snowfall had not been seen since the 1980s, yet know one seemed to notice this large period of snowfall and cooling in the middle of all the talk about global warming. NoI have not wondered about it, because I understand, at least some of, the science involved.I recognise that, just because some places are cooling at some times of years, that does not mean that the planet as a whole is warming.In fact, I see that global warming may easily lead to local cooling. Where I live, the gulf stream does a pretty good job of keeping the place warm.But the mechanisms that drive it may be brought to a halt by global warming.Donald Trump, as far as I can tell from what he says, does not realise that distinction.Of course, it's possible that he does understand it but lies with a view to getting votes and support for his short termist policies.do dodge a simple yes/no question by overwhelming the opponent with meaningless demagoguery. I'm copyrighting this phrase."To pull a Trump": Dude, you just pulled a TrumpFromhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=To%20pull%20a%20Trump
do dodge a simple yes/no question
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 24/01/2019 04:37:30do dodge a simple yes/no questionHe didn't dodge it, he answered with a "no".
Quote from: Kryptid on 24/01/2019 17:19:58Quote from: Petrochemicals on 24/01/2019 04:37:30do dodge a simple yes/no questionHe didn't dodge it, he answered with a "no". He answered with a written 'no', and then went on to dicuss it in a trumpesque fashion of a political manovering about the question.do dodge a simple yes/no question by overwhelming the opponent with meaningless demagoguery. I'm copyrighting this phrase."To pull a Trump": Dude, you just pulled a TrumpAnd then Kryptid took his sideAnd then petrochemicals typed a reply
He answered with a written 'no'
and then went on to dicuss it in a trumpesque fashion of a political manovering about the question.
I thought this was the naked >SCIENTISTS<, ie ones who look at the data and make logically sound arguments based on research and experimentation ?
Being as youve asked so nicely,https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximumhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11763272/How-Arctic-ice-has-made-fools-of-all-those-poor-warmists.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.htmlThese are easy to find if you type 'global cooling' into the search. It was actually really big news and i cannot believe you need evidence ?, I cant believe theres not a thread on TNS about it. seems that in 2013 2014 the average temperature dropped.There where also massive longterm snowfalls across europe, and I believe bad snow in the States, although that seems to be just a little highter than average.
There where also massive longterm snowfalls across europe, and I believe bad snow in the States, although that seems to be just a little highter than average.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 01:04:26Being as youve asked so nicely,https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximumhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11763272/How-Arctic-ice-has-made-fools-of-all-those-poor-warmists.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.htmlThese are easy to find if you type 'global cooling' into the search. It was actually really big news and i cannot believe you need evidence ?, I cant believe theres not a thread on TNS about it. seems that in 2013 2014 the average temperature dropped.There where also massive longterm snowfalls across europe, and I believe bad snow in the States, although that seems to be just a little highter than average.This is what I was talking about earlier when I said you were cherry-picking. You are looking at only a small fraction of the data (for 2013 and 2014). Climate is subject to random fluctuations from one year to another, which is why it's important to look at trends over a long period of time in order to find any that are there. Since you posted a link to NASA, I presume that means you trust them as a source of reliable information. If that's the case, then you should look at these graphs that examine decades worth of data instead of a few years: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
And this is what i said abouthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 16:22:19And this is what i said abouthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_biasIn what way is it confirmation bias?
In a comformation bias way.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 25/01/2019 19:35:20In a comformation bias way.That seems to imply that not even you know what you mean. Otherwise, you'd be able to elaborate.
It cannot "Seem to imply" it either implys or does not. It would not imply anything n this context anyway, other than the very obvious impication that you are asking the obvious