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When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?

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When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« on: 01/11/2021 05:59:38 »
Also, has any of you ever died of a heart attack?
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #1 on: 01/11/2021 07:15:16 »
Quote from: OP
has any of you ever died of a heart attack?
Is this the bonus Halloween question?
Sort of a "zombie reveal"?
« Last Edit: 02/11/2021 01:11:47 by evan_au »
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #2 on: 01/11/2021 14:11:58 »
Can you rephrase or clarify the question in the title.
There are 2 types of diabetes known surprisingly as type 1 & type 2.
Type 1 is genetic usually with onset during teenage, type 2 has links to obesity and diet.
Which one do you mean, because I’ve never heard either referred to as sugar diabetes, but maybe I’m not old enough to have heard of an archaic name.
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #3 on: 01/11/2021 16:51:40 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 01/11/2021 14:11:58
I’ve never heard either referred to as sugar diabetes
I had an uncle who was diabetic, I think I recall my aunt using the term sugar diabetes back in the 1960s.
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #4 on: 01/11/2021 19:38:53 »
Maybe "sugar diabetes" is like "viral hepatitis" or "broke a leg skiing"?
- You describe the disease and the cause?

In diabetes, secretions of insulin from the pancreas can no longer keep blood sugar under control, leading to high levels of sugar in the bloodstream. This can lead to problems with fine blood vessels, resulting in loss of vision, amputation of limbs ,etc.

Type 1 diabetes has an unusual inheritance pattern - some think that as well as an inherited susceptibility, there must be an environmental trigger that starts it.
- One hypothesis is that there is some virus which causes no problems in most people, but in susceptible people it causes the immune system to attack the insulin-producing cells in the pancreas?
-But the jury is still out...

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_diabetes#Environmental
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #5 on: 01/11/2021 22:35:54 »
Quote from: vhfpmr on 01/11/2021 16:51:40
Quote from: Colin2B on 01/11/2021 14:11:58
I’ve never heard either referred to as sugar diabetes
I had an uncle who was diabetic, I think I recall my aunt using the term sugar diabetes back in the 1960s.
My brother developed type 1 in his teens. At the time we never knew of a type 2, it was just called diabetes.

Also, not sure what this means nor it’s relevance:
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 01/11/2021 05:59:38
Also, has any of you ever died of a heart attack?
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #6 on: 02/11/2021 14:45:09 »
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 01/11/2021 05:59:38
Also, has any of you ever died of a heart attack?

Hmm, sounds kinda implausible.
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But wait a minute, hold on...
It's a Statement made by P_M
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Hmmm, so it Demands a much deeper thought.

" In summary, no heartbeat + no breathing + no brain activity = clinical death, but it does not necessarily spell Death. Clinical death is treated as a medical emergency, with CPR and the like following. Only when a physician calls off the efforts and throws in the towel can brain or biological death, eventually followed by legal death, be declared. In the U.S., this marks the removal of “personhood” from the deceased’s body. "

Ps - i could go into cardiac arrest, no pulse & be Dead for a couple of minutes.
I might be brought back, yea Resurrected is the Word...unless i have a D.N.R. wish...which i do.
I'd simply be a Moron to feed my delusions & hallucinations to gullible believers of faith by stating there is an AfterLife.
& Others would be quite Foolish to Believe what i say.
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #7 on: 02/11/2021 16:09:45 »
I guess they stopped making the distinction when diabetes mellitus  massively overtook
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus
as a health issue.

"Excessive urination and extreme thirst and increased fluid intake (especially for cold water and sometimes ice or ice water) are typical for Diabetes insipidus.[6] The symptoms of excessive urination and extreme thirst are similar to what is seen in untreated diabetes mellitus, with the distinction that the urine does not contain glucose."
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #8 on: 10/11/2021 02:11:17 »
Sugar diabetes is a term that combines Latin with English incorrectly. "diabetes" translates roughly as "across sugar" from the diagnosis of the condition was made by tasting the patient's urine for the presence of a sweet flavor. So, "sugar" is redundant in the term. Similarly, Pizza-Pie and 5 AM in the morning.
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Re: When did sugar diabetes become plain old diabetes?
« Reply #9 on: 10/11/2021 18:33:48 »
Quote from: diverjohn on 10/11/2021 02:11:17
"diabetes" translates roughly as "across sugar"
No, it doesn't.
It comes from the Greek for siphon.

Sugar diabetes is so named (usually in medical Latin as diabetes mellitus) to distinguish it from diabetes insipidus (meaning tasteless diabetes).

The name comes from the copious production of urine.
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