[Bored chemist]

The Corbyn problem

The Corbyn problem was that he told the truth about the Right wing and both, the billionaires, and the folk at the BBC lied about him.
The BBC also made Nigel Farage the  most frequent ever guest on Question time.

[Bored chemist]

paying for "intervention buying" to maintain the market price of food.

I remember the "wine lake" and the "butter mountain" in the 1970s
I also remember not really hearing about them since. There's a reason for that.
"The butter mountain is a supply surplus of butter produced in the European Union because of government interventionism that began in the 1970s. The size of the surplus changed significantly over time and mostly disappeared by 2017, which led to shortages."
From.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_mountain

[Petrochemicals]

The NHS is in need of investment, we expect far better service than other countries who pay a significantly greater ammount of tax.

[alancalverd]

"The butter mountain is a supply surplus of butter produced in the European Union because of government interventionism that began in the 1970s. The size of the surplus changed significantly over time and mostly disappeared by 2017, which led to shortages."

Hardly indicative of competent management, eh? Whatever happened to the inherent efficiency of the free market? Oh yes, some bureaucrats and politicians decided to meddle with it to keep the price up whilst buying agricultural votes with taxpayers' money.

I always considered burning or otherwise denaturing food to be a mortal sin. May they all burn in Hell.

[alancalverd]

The BBC also made Nigel Farage the  most frequent ever guest on Question time.

And gave Trump even more airtime! 

As Goebbels said, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Like it or not, Farage was unique in always answering the question, and being prepared to campaign for the public good at the cost of his own salary (as an MEP).

[alancalverd]

That's what we are doing NOW.

Who "we"?

As for fishing, "Brexit means Brexit" clearly didn't mean Brexit to those responsible for doing it. Abraham Lincoln defined a country as a geographical area protected with lethal force, but if you scrap your navy you can't extend the area very far, and if you have spent the last 50 years giving fishermen compensation for scrapping their boats, there isn't much point anyway. Three years is a long time in politics (how many unelected prime ministers was that?) but the blink of an eye in environmental protection and food production. Iceland and Norway don't seem to have a problem, but then they don't have morons at the helm.

[Bored chemist]

That's what we are doing NOW.

Who "we"?

Try reading it in context.

That's what we are doing NOW.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output?leadSource=uverify%20wall

You will see that the UK is losing money post  brexit.

[Bored chemist]

but then they don't have morons at the helm.

Have you noticed that we have brexiteers at the helm?

[alancalverd]

Not mutually exclusive.

Joe Root wants to play cricket for England, and so do I, but in the event that I promised the selectors massive tax cuts and he just bored on about legside field placings, I don't think we'd win many games under my brief but hugely popular captaincy.

Anyway, the first few lines say it all. Businesses may be finding it difficult to raise investment or hire workers, but workers and investors (the other "we") can in consequence demand higher wages and smarter management.

And if the country is so bloody unpopular, why do we have such massive and uncontrollable inward migration? 

[Petrochemicals]

Whatever happened to the inherent efficiency of the free market?

It is still here proudly in Britain, with no lorry drivers, unwilling workforce and rail ticket prices.

[Bored chemist]

workers and investors (the other "we") can in consequence demand higher wages and smarter management.

That's not actually happening and the government is relying on having left the EU to implement anti-worker regulations to stop it doing.

[alancalverd]

Funny, that. I thought lots of workers were striking for higher wages. So it's just an unwillingness to turn up and do a job. Clearly, then, Brexit has turned the country into a paradise where you don't need to work at all. 

[Petrochemicals]

Funny, that. I thought lots of workers were striking for higher wages. So it's just an unwillingness to turn up and do a job. Clearly, then, Brexit has turned the country into a paradise where you don't need to work at all. 

Yes, it's an unwillingness to turn up and do a job, the conditions are contested by the unions and by people who look for retirement, have medical retirements, change jobs regularly. Many people who where near retirement age after corona didnt want to come back.

[Bored chemist]

Funny, that. I thought lots of workers were striking for higher wages.

Strikes are, as you ought to know, the last resort when reasonable demands are not met.
You say the workers can expect " higher wages and smarter management.".
I'm just pointing out that's not what's happening, is it?

[alancalverd]

No, I said "demand", not "expect".

[Bored chemist]

Just curious; if brexit was reversed, which benefit would you miss most?

[Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)]

My grandfather (right) at one of your great hospitals in 1942. 51.4977N 2.5249W

[alancalverd]

....before the NHS was established.

[Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)]

....before the NHS was established.

Before the NHS, did most working-class and poor Brits rarely, if ever, visit a doctor?

[Petrochemicals]

....before the NHS was established.

Before the NHS, did most working-class and poor Brits rarely, if ever, visit a doctor?

Yes, before the NHS people had to pay for doctors so the working classes had very little access to non emergency medical attention. There where free hospitals if you where maimed awfully.