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Can men be trusted around children?
« on: 09/01/2021 13:53:48 »
Other news events happening are more scandals involving men in trusted positions having sex with children. The U.S. Canada, UK and Australia are chock full of stories of men employed at children's hospitals and charities and schools and even candy stores using their pull for sexual gratification of minors. I, for one, don't believe it's an epidemic. It is popular (dare I say exciting) news to consume. People take the few cases of this happening, magnify it and create the illusion that its everywhere. The rise of amateur journalists such as your country's Stinson Hunter and those emulating him, have quite a lot of influence of shaping public opinion. Here in the U.S. we have taken pride in the fact that we are apparently above that brand of vigilantly  justice. We've had groups/organizations such as Perverted Justice and Tetrad Core doing such things for over two decades, but they're controlled and employ legal advisors to ensure their operations don't get too out of hand, compromising their cases. This was until a year ago. They are now everywhere here too.

But I don't think these operations really reduce pedophilic crime. Like Alcoholics Anonymous, none of them self-study and have no evidence to backup their pedophilic crime-reduction claims.
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Re: Can men be trusted around children?
« Reply #1 on: 09/01/2021 14:27:02 »
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 09/01/2021 13:53:48
Other news events happening are more scandals involving men in trusted positions having sex with children. The U.S. Canada, UK and Australia are chock full of stories of men employed at children's hospitals and charities and schools and even candy stores using their pull for sexual gratification of minors. I, for one, don't believe it's an epidemic. It is popular (dare I say exciting) news to consume.
Indeed, the news is in the business of reporting the unusual.  Nobody reads articles about how the typical male working at these institutions does not do these things. The only epidemic about it is that the news might be picking up on it more, and that is probably a good sign, since the old method of dealing with the situation was to hide it.

You forgot to mention the clergy and organizations like sports and scouting. Boy Scouts of America is currently being sued into nonexistence not necessarily for having the occasional pedophile within its ranks, but for how they handle the situtation when it comes to light. Like the clergy, the reaction has always been to protect the pedophile and thus, temporarily at least, their public image. I approve of their downfall because of this. If only the church could be similarly sued into nonexistence.
As for men in such positions, the system would work if such organizations (the schools, charities and such) performed decent background checks on those they hire, and if those identified (convicted or plea-bargained down) would have their past be available on permanent public record. Yes, it would ruin some people, but that's exactly the point.

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People take the few cases of this happening, magnify it and create the illusion that its everywhere.
Children are abused somewhere every hour. Many are isolated cases, and a great deal are by their parents. It is not the case in the majority of families, but it may be encountered by a majority of children at one point in their lives at least, so that's pretty 'everywhere'.  I know few people who didn't have a teacher somewhere in school with such a reputation, even if it was only (in my case) the guy that seated all the pretty sun-dress wearing girls in the front row so that he could drop his chalk frequently. Not exactly news worthy, but the guy creeped out all of us, and we were not expected to be able to do anything about it. The school was more interested in protecting him and his reputation, and hey, looking up skirts doesn't seem to be a serious crime, right? That's all I saw, but I wonder about the girls.
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