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Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?

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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #20 on: 18/05/2022 10:42:00 »
Or methane - less corrosive than ammonia and the source of much industrial hydrogen nowadays.

Hydrogen storage in palladium is a popular process if container weight isn't a problem.

But if you really need 40 tonnes of payload in one shipment, liquefaction is probably the only practicable method, and you'll need a barge to carry 600,000 liters. The good news is that the fractional losses from a tank of that size will be very small. 
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #21 on: 18/05/2022 12:51:34 »
For the benefit of those who don't understand the problem...
Burning methane creates CO2.
 Carbon neutral methane is possible but not common.
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #22 on: 18/05/2022 13:04:44 »
How about pipes, and huge gas storage containers dotted here and there
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #23 on: 18/05/2022 13:47:29 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 17/05/2022 01:34:54
The reason to use water is to make hydrogen less dangerous during transportation.
How would water make hydrogen less dangerous?
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #24 on: 18/05/2022 16:58:21 »
You could use it to put the fire out, if hydrogen were a dense solid.
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #25 on: 18/05/2022 17:03:42 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/05/2022 12:51:34
For the benefit of those who don't understand the problem...
Burning methane creates CO2.
Who's talking about burning anything? This guy just wants to transport 40 tonnes of hydrogen in one manageable shipment. He could do so by shifting 320 tonnes of liquid methane (or 350 tonnes of ammonia, as you suggested) and extracting the hydrogen at the destination, but however he does it, he will need a barge, not a truck.
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #26 on: 18/05/2022 23:08:59 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 18/05/2022 17:03:42
Who's talking about burning anything?
You.
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/05/2022 11:30:20
People get overexcited about hydrogen fires,
among others.
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #27 on: 20/05/2022 13:14:12 »
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Quote from: alancalverd on 18/05/2022 17:03:42
Who's talking about burning anything?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/05/2022 12:51:34
For the benefit of those who don't understand the problem...
Burning methane creates CO2.
Ipsi dixit
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Re: Is it safe to transport hydrogen gas compressed into a water tank?
« Reply #28 on: 20/05/2022 15:02:08 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 20/05/2022 13:14:12
Ipsi dixit
I guess you mean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit
"Ipse dixit (Latin for "he said it himself") is an assertion without proof, or a dogmatic expression of opinion"
Are you saying that burning methane might not produce CO2?

Feel free to repeat this school experiment, using methane instead of wax.
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