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Title: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: 4getmenot on 04/08/2006 04:10:40
Im just totally speechless at  this  act  of  complete barbarism , ignorance  and inhumanity,,,,,,these are  the  same Morons  who claim to  want Nuclear  Technology  for  so-called  peacefull  purposes
 
 
An 8 year old child caught stealing bread  in a market of Iran is punished in a public place, in  the name of Islam! His arm will be crushed and will lose its use  permanently.  A religion of peace and love, they  say? How can anyone believe them when they commit such  inhuman acts?

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k
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: moonfire on 04/08/2006 04:40:14
I received this email too and it is very bad over stealing some bread...so sad...

"Lo" Loretta
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Karen W. on 04/08/2006 06:43:16
OH....My GOD.......Oh my god oh my god.... oh my god....I'm gonna be sick..

Karen
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Grecian on 04/08/2006 08:51:25
posted by Karen W.[/i]
OH....My GOD.......Oh my god oh my god.... oh my god....I'm gonna be sick..

Karen.


I'm speechless.

Love you lots
Helena xxx


Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 04/08/2006 12:50:20
It is horrific (although the mental trauma of long term imprisonment, even is less visibly horrific, can also be dehumanising).

Looking at the picture above, it does not look like there are any representatives of authority there – it looks like an act of lawless vigilantism.  Vigilantism is always horrific, whether practised in the slave states of the USA in past years, or in any other part of the world where the authority of central government is week, and people choose to take the law into their own hands (sorry, no pun intended).



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: moonfire on 04/08/2006 14:59:31
Nope, this email came in and it was from another country...

"Lo" Loretta
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 04/08/2006 16:28:37
I know it's foreign – the car number plates are foreign – can't make out the script, but it doesn't look Arabic to me (although there may be two different scripts, and the writing on the lower part of the number plate, although even less legible, might be Arabic, but it is so illegible that I doubt anyone could say anything about it for sure).  The faces of the people look like they might be possibly from the Indian sub-continent – so maybe we are looking at the tribal communities of Pakistan, or Afghanistan, or some remote regions in India.

All I was trying to say was that human nature is just as bad everywhere in the world, and it does not look like the above is particularly sanctioned by any religious of secular body, but is merely some guys taking it upon themselves to meet out 'justice' in their own fashion.  It is not unknown in Western societies, although it is clearly rarer in Western societies, because the rule of law is stronger.



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: 4getmenot on 04/08/2006 21:47:53
Do they still do this type of thing in Turkey???I know not to far back they still did, but unsure of now.

k
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: ukmicky on 04/08/2006 21:53:46
I cant believe what i'm seeing, how could anyone do that to a child.

Michael
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 04/08/2006 22:41:17
quote:
Originally posted by 4getmenot
Do they still do this type of thing in Turkey???I know not to far back they still did, but unsure of now.



I have not heard of this happening in Turkey, and I would doubt that it would happen (or, at least no more happen than in many parts of Europe) in Western Turkey; but I cannot say what might happen in Eastern Turkey, some parts of which seem to be in permanent revolt against the central authority, and the central authority responds with an iron boot.

In this case, it is plainly evident that neither the people, nor the registration plates on the vehicles, are Turkish.



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Mjhavok on 05/08/2006 01:13:04
This is totally digusting. Even if a child killed someone this should not be done to them. It's an 8 year old child! ! !.

I am 24 years old. I am law obiding citizen. I am not a criminal or a ned/chav or a gang banger or a mafia crime boss. My parents raised me well. This said when I was 6 I stole some fire lighters are bonfire because I was curious on how the stayed alight. A small childs interest in science if a little misplaced. I never got caught but if I had in iran this would have happened to me. Shocking shocking shocking. Is all I can say.
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 05/08/2006 01:58:50
I think a fair percentage of kids go through a phase of steeling – I did it myself.  Sometimes the only way to find out something is wrong it to test the boundaries – but I agree there is little point in learning right from wrong if at the end of it you are left with only one arm.



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Mjhavok on 05/08/2006 03:45:09
That kind of thing makes a kid get a list. Then later in life when he is handed his AK-47 by the Iranian military with his new robotic arm he will carry out killing the people on that list who took his arm. The vengeful side of me hopes he does. The altruistic side hopes he can put it past him. Somehow.

Steven
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: 4getmenot on 05/08/2006 06:09:53
quote:
Originally posted by another_someone

quote:
Originally posted by 4getmenot
Do they still do this type of thing in Turkey???I know not to far back they still did, but unsure of now.



I have not heard of this happening in Turkey, and I would doubt that it would happen (or, at least no more happen than in many parts of Europe) in Western Turkey; but I cannot say what might happen in Eastern Turkey, some parts of which seem to be in permanent revolt against the central authority, and the central authority responds with an iron boot.

In this case, it is plainly evident that neither the people, nor the registration plates on the vehicles, are Turkish.



George




I know this pictures are not Turkey, i was just wondering about Turkey nowadays...my cousin was born there since my uncle was stationed there for years and had came back with many stories and one was of a boy who was also caught stealing and had his fingers removed.....

k
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Grecian on 05/08/2006 09:26:19

I do wonder if these pictures are really what they seem,
there are a couple of things that make me feel doubtful.
First, the child was not held in any wany.
Secondly, why was the blanket put under his arm - to protect it?
Beacuase of this I do have a question mark as to whether these
pictures are genuine.


Love you lots

Helena   xxx


Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Karen W. on 05/08/2006 09:33:36
The man in the picture hasw his arm held down, look again!

Karen
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Grecian on 05/08/2006 12:40:53



Karen - sorry, I still can't see anyone holding his arm.


Love you lots

Helena  xxx


Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: upton on 05/08/2006 13:32:30
Barbaric, inhuman, sickening, disgusting.

The man is holding his arm down in pictures 2,3,4 & 5

~~~I can't think of a signature~~~
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: Grecian on 05/08/2006 13:40:34


Now I see the hand holding him down, thanks for pointing that out.


Love you lots

Helena  xxx




Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 05/08/2006 14:35:21
quote:
Originally posted by Mjhavok
That kind of thing makes a kid get a list. Then later in life when he is handed his AK-47 by the Iranian military with his new robotic arm he will carry out killing the people on that list who took his arm. The vengeful side of me hopes he does. The altruistic side hopes he can put it past him. Somehow.



Unfortunately, that is not what will happen.

What is as likely to happen is that he has his arm taken off for steeling, then when he gets older, someone offends him in some way, and he will punish that person with the same vigour as he himself was punished as a child.



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: another_someone on 05/08/2006 14:38:51
quote:
Originally posted by 4getmenot
I know this pictures are not Turkey, i was just wondering about Turkey nowadays...my cousin was born there since my uncle was stationed there for years and had came back with many stories and one was of a boy who was also caught stealing and had his fingers removed.....



As I say, I really don't know what is happening in the east, particularly the Kurdish areas.

Where about was your uncle stationed – I would imagine that most of the front line forces would have been in the East – either facing the caucuses (if in the days of the cold war), or facing Iraq or Iran if more recently?



George
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: neilep on 06/08/2006 19:11:06
This is one of those ' I hold my hands up high and look up to the stars moments '

I just echo everybody else's sentiments here.

Unbelievable (in my culture and philosophy) that this behaviour is sanctioned. Impossible for me to understand the nature of some peoples ways !!

it's appalling, degrading to humanity and eventually self deprecating with no benefit of any kind.

it's excruciating to watch and one can not imagine the trauma to the boy.

disgusting !! bereft of any redeeming qualities whatsoever...in my opinion.

Men are the same as women, just inside out !
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: moonfire on 06/08/2006 19:15:26
I agree with you Neil....exactly

"Lo" Loretta
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: 4getmenot on 07/08/2006 04:30:00
quote:
Originally posted by another_someone

quote:
Originally posted by 4getmenot
I know this pictures are not Turkey, i was just wondering about Turkey nowadays...my cousin was born there since my uncle was stationed there for years and had came back with many stories and one was of a boy who was also caught stealing and had his fingers removed.....



As I say, I really don't know what is happening in the east, particularly the Kurdish areas.

Where about was your uncle stationed – I would imagine that most of the front line forces would have been in the East – either facing the caucuses (if in the days of the cold war), or facing Iraq or Iran if more recently?



George




I am unsure exactly what part, i only remember Turkey..It was over 30 years ago...

k
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: WiseMan on 14/08/2006 22:06:15
This is totaly Bogus! Don't all get your dander up! It's just a street magician's stunt.

See Snopes

http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushboy.asp
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: 4getmenot on 18/08/2006 03:40:49
man!!!!!my uncle sent that to me and i thought it was real...i will be sending him your site "snopes". what and awful thing to do.....i think i am more upset that someone would put this out there like that than i was thinking it was real!!!! but thatnk you for the site wiseman..

k
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: thayo on 22/08/2006 05:43:14
[quote
This is totaly Bogus! Don't all get your dander up! It's just a street magician's stunt.

[/quote]
even if its a magical stunt,the act has uneccessary tramped on the childs right to live without subjection to harsh condition. If the act was the childs result for stealen then one can easily conclude that such communities should indicted and charged accordingly because children at that still need guidance.

lets keep trying the untried since the birth of science innovations have been like  toy but their impacts have rocked the world
Title: Re: Infuriating..self explanatory
Post by: thayo on 22/08/2006 05:53:20
quote:
Originally posted by Mjhavok

well. This said when I was 6 I stole some fire lighters are bonfire because I was curious on how the stayed alight. A small childs interest in science if a little misplaced. I never got caught but if I had in iran this would have happened to me. Shocking shocking shocking. Is all I can say.


if u had practiced in such community i doubt if wouldnt donated ur hand or ur leg.

lets keep trying the untried since the birth of science innovations have been like  toy but their impacts have rocked the world