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Title: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 26/11/2005 19:58:15
Dearest Chums of Intellectual Scholasticness !

Oil floats on water eh ?...is there a way to make water float on oil ? either by making the water lighter (not by freezing) or making the oil denser ?..if so..how so ?

The reason I want to know is because I want to know and that's my reason.

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: ukmicky on 27/11/2005 04:34:48
originaly posted by neilep
Dearest Chums of Intellectual Scholasticness !


Neil your excluding a lot of people there.[:)]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Simmer on 27/11/2005 12:31:21
Intelleckshull skolsticudination eh?  Sounds right up my street! [:D]

My solution is chlorinate the oil - typical density for chlorinated paraffin ~ 1.25 g/cm^3 [:)]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 27/11/2005 18:39:55
Michael...you're putting yourself down chum !!....Simmer ...thank you for correcting my spelling !!

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: ukmicky on 27/11/2005 20:42:58
Michael...you're putting yourself down chum !!....
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Neil. Thank you!
It’s amazing what somebody can do with the right words of encouragement.
And after many hours of intense thought and as a direct result of your kind words.I have actually come up with a solution.

I know the answer; I know how to make oil float on water.
 
What you do is youuuuuuu...No what you do is you.... arrrh…I’ve messed up haven't I.

I’ll get back to you[:D]


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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 27/11/2005 23:19:55
quote:
Scholasticness


Shouldn't that be "scholarliness"?[:p]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 27/11/2005 23:21:42
Would supersaturating the water with salt do it?
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: ukmicky on 27/11/2005 23:51:58
I've got it[:)]
Get one plastic bottle of water and remove most of its contents, seal the bottle and place it in a container full of oil.

result water floating on oil [:)]



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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 28/11/2005 00:17:55
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorBeaver

quote:
Scholasticness


Shouldn't that be "scholarliness"?[:p]



I made this word up ...like a lot of my words are ! [;)]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 28/11/2005 00:19:36
quote:
Originally posted by ukmicky

I've got it[:)]
Get one plastic bottle of water and remove most of its contents, seal the bottle and place it in a container full of oil.

result water floating on oil [:)]



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That's it !!...of course !...see Michael, withour studying said topic, you have somehow mastered it...[:D]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: ukmicky on 28/11/2005 01:54:44
glad i could help[:)]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 29/11/2005 15:21:48
quote:
I made this word up ...like a lot of my words are !


Oh the wonders of pseudolexical parapillations, eh! [:o)]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 29/11/2005 16:35:40
YAYYY !!..Roll on..The Owl And The *****cat and the articulational expressionalidiomanals !![;)]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 29/11/2005 18:56:05
I used to throw made-up words into my lectures to see if any of the students would actually ask me to explain them. On the vast majority of occasions, no-one did.
I didn't do it just to be mean (although I did take a certain pleasure in it!). It was to demonstrate how the image of ourselves we wish to display can often hamper us. The students would rather remain ignorant than admit in front of the others that they didn't understand what I was saying.

[:D]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: another_someone on 30/11/2005 07:59:17
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorBeaver

I used to throw made-up words into my lectures to see if any of the students would actually ask me to explain them. On the vast majority of occasions, no-one did.
I didn't do it just to be mean (although I did take a certain pleasure in it!). It was to demonstrate how the image of ourselves we wish to display can often hamper us. The students would rather remain ignorant than admit in front of the others that they didn't understand what I was saying.

[:D]



I don't know the context in which you did this, and so have to make a few sweeping assumptions, that may be wrong; but I still doubt your conclusion is as simple as you make it out to be.

Some people will not question, not because they don't wish to appear stupid, but because they are too timid to interrupt the flow, and maybe feel that their ignorance should not inconvenience others.

In other cases, the context of a word may give it meaning even where the word itself is unfamiliar to the listener.

In many other cases, one will absorb some information, realising that one does not fully understand it (even when all the vocabulary used is totally familiar), but would then mull it over later, and the meaning sometimes becomes apparent long after one first was exposed to the information.

When one is learning a new topic, there is also the matter one is in any case often subject to information overload, and so the fact that there is some information that one does not immediately understand is not unusual.  One often assumes that if the information is important, one will come across it again in another context, and maybe make more sense of it the second time.
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 30/11/2005 10:11:29
I was a lecturer in psychology & used that technique to illustrate a particular point. Yes, I'm aware there are other reasons why people don't ask, but I was trying to emphasise the fact that what mattered was understanding what was being said & not public image.
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 30/11/2005 21:07:23
Did you know that there's actually a word for "throwing made-up words into a conversation to test your audience" - it's called "lexicuspiation".
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Simmer on 30/11/2005 21:22:32
Did you think we wouldn't check! [:D]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 30/11/2005 22:12:17
Sorry, I just couldn't resist it![:D]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: neilep on 01/12/2005 03:48:41
I checked also. It's not in my 3 year olds 'My First Few Words ' book....hmmm ! [;)]

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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 02/12/2005 13:48:13
I just Googled it & the only result was a link to Solvay's post where he mentions it. Self-fulfilling? [:D]
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: rosy on 02/12/2005 16:37:27
As my arts-student friends keep telling me, English is a user-defined language.. so if Solvay says lexicuspiation means "throwing made up words into conversation to confuse an audience"... then it does.
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 02/12/2005 19:45:02
Rosy - all languages are user-defined. However, a word only takes a certain meaning by concensus. Therefore, just because 1 person says a certain means a certain something, it doesn't follow that a) the word will pass into usage or b) if it does, it will mean what that person said it does
Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: another_someone on 02/12/2005 22:29:44
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorBeaver

Rosy - all languages are user-defined.



In some senses, all languages evolve out of usage, but in the case of languages such as French or German, the language has a formal definition determined by a national academy; for English, no such national academy exists, so there can not be any central diktat defines what is officially within the language and what is without it.

Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: ukmicky on 02/12/2005 23:32:27
Neil
Don't you think Its amazing how some topics go totally off topic and evolve in to something completly different.

That if dont know is called psymorphic-fractulization. CHECK IT I DARE YOU[:)]



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Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 03/12/2005 00:48:17
I couldn't resist.  I typed 'psymorphic-fractulization' into google, and it came up with the message:
"Did you mean: polymorphic fractualization"

So I clicked on that, and it said:
"Your search - polymorphic fractualization - did not match any documents."

Doh!

Title: Re: Can you make water float on oil ?
Post by: Solvay_1927 on 03/12/2005 00:54:49
Talking about new words in the English language, I've come up with a new one myself: I use the word "peperami" in place of the word "roadkill".  (Inspired by the advert - you know, the one that says "Peperami - it's a bit of an animal.")

(Maybe you can all help to make its usage so common that it eventually appears in the dictionary.  Next time you see a dead animal by the side of the road, say to the other people in your car "that's well peperamied, isn't it!")

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