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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: Yahya on 07/09/2016 19:42:21
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it is a personal story , when my parents and brothers told me that I was able to speak with a clear accent when I was 4 months , they said I was able to speak words like my father's name , the word " mother" and things like " leave me alone " with an adult accent and precision , so can an infant speak ? if that is not possible , what it means if it happens ?
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Studies have shown that a baby's development of language is guided by the language they hear from the mother while in utero.
In a number of languages I have heard, the baby-language word for "mother" (something like "mum") seems to have a similar, easy-to-produce pattern for a baby with minimal vocal training and coordination, who really wants to suck some milk.
- Could this be a case of baby development guiding language?
- Or maybe a case of lazy fathers: "The baby is calling you, dear..."?
Words like "dada" or "papa" seem to develop a bit later - plosives may be more difficult for a baby to produce?
As for the rest, perhaps a bit of exaggeration?
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As for the rest, perhaps a bit of exaggeration?
No , they are serious .I searched the internet but never find something .
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It would be *very* unusual, if not impossible (but who knows, maybe you are the first!). Unless they have some recordings or other evidence, I think it is much more likely that it is either an exaggeration or parental wishful thinking (I think all of us have inflated views of the abilities and achievements of our own children)
Children start cooing within 3 months, and by 4 or 5 months can produce the sounds of some simple words (who, ha, he, ba, ma etc.) but I don't think that there is any evidence that they are actually using them as words.
Many children can say (and mean) very easy words (ma, mama, baba, pa, papa, no) between 12 and 18 months, but such young children only have vocabularies (that they can express) of maybe a few dozen words (somewhat more if they have learned baby sign language, which is easier to communicate with than vocalizing.)
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it is a personal story , when my parents and brothers told me that I was able to speak with a clear accent when I was 4 months , they said I was able to speak words like my father's name , the word " mother" and things like " leave me alone " with an adult accent and precision , so can an infant speak ? if that is not possible , what it means if it happens ?
Do the neighbours and your family's friends remember this miracle?
if not, why wouldn't they- it would be extremely unusual to talk at 4 months.
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they kept it as a secret no-one except my family knows , I think they were afraid of the evil-eye and other things , even they didn't tell me , only when I grew up. I asked my mother today she said it happened at 6 months and she thought it was just a sign of extreme intelligence , I do not think I am such intelligent . but I think I have some supernatural powers.
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The trouble with secrets is that they destroy evidence.
Now nobody will ever be able to answer your question properly.
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there is not an evidence , but it happened , what if what is going to happen is more important than what happened ? , a famous psychic Jeane Dixon who predicted the assassination of John F . Kennedy 10 years before it happened , also predicted that there will be a great child from somewhere in the middle east who will control the world and make all the people in the world follow a new Christianity, I can't see a greater child than a speaking one.
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Well, there are two problems there.
The first is that psychics are frauds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeane_Dixon#The_Jeane_Dixon_effect
The second regards " I can't see a greater child than a speaking one."
How about a child that learns not to believe in psychics?
Or even one who doesn't pee in his bed.
Or even one that the neighbours know abut.
There are lots of "greater" children than one whose mother says (well after the event) that he learned to talk early.
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first I do not believe in psychics , they can predict things to happen and other not , John F.Kennedy assassination was a true prediction , you can't claim it is a kind of luck, Jeane Dixon herself has unfulfilled predictions , if I say a predict of her may come true that does not mean believing in her .
second I have not seen a child that does not pee in his bed , but if that is true how many can do that ? only one ? I doubt that. you said yourself it is a miracle , but you thought I might be a proud person, but I am not. I just read and try to understand what happened to me means as another person would do.
also my understanding is religion-based which may not be as yours
anyway while this suppose to be a future event , it is true only when it happens.
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first I do not believe in psychics , ...
second I have not seen a child that does not pee in his bed ,
if you do not believe in psychics, why quote one?
Nor have I but a child who could both talk and keep the bed dry would obviously be more "great" than one who only managed one of those achievements.
So, what you are saying is that someone- who you don't believe can predict things- predicted a "Great Child" who- according to you must be one who talked early rather than any number of other child prodigies.
And you say that in a thread where you started off by saying that you talked early (a bit- though there's no independent evidence).
And you say "...you thought I might be a proud person, but I am not. "
Well, bragging about how young you talked is pride
The tacit implication that you might- because of that- somehow be some prophesied "Great Child" is even more pride.
And to top it off there's this "also my understanding is religion-based".
So there's no reason to suppose any of your thoughts on this are rational or based on evidence.
Why have you posted it in physiology/medicine?
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There are lots of "greater" children than one whose mother says ...
don't ever mention my mother
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There are lots of "greater" children than one whose mother says ...
don't ever mention my mother, the one who posts is me not my mother.
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So there's no reason to suppose any of your thoughts on this are rational or based on evidence.
Why have you posted it in physiology/medicine?
because I wanted to know " can an infant speak clearly ?" and I knew from respectful answers.
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So there's no reason to suppose any of your thoughts on this are rational or based on evidence.
Why have you posted it in physiology/medicine?
because I wanted to know " can an infant speak clearly ?" and I knew from respectful answers.
It seems odd to come back months later but never mind.
What did you do to earn respect?
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What did you do to earn respect?
I show respect to others, that why I earn respect , but do you think you should do something special to earn respect ? and that you are so special that you are the only one to earn respect?
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What did you do to earn respect?
I show respect to others, that why I earn respect , but do you think you should do something special to earn respect ? and that you are so special that you are the only one to earn respect?
Read the thread again.
Then tell me who is claiming to be something special.
Here's a hint- being able to talk at 4 months is special.
I'm not claiming anything in particular.
But I'd still like to know what you think you have done to earn our respect.
Turning up + claiming that you are some sort of "messiah" is a poor start.
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The first is that psychics are frauds.
Yes I now Know
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if that is not possible , what it means if it happens ?
If it happened, then it's not impossible. If it's impossible, then it didn't happen.
It's rare for children to speak at such a young age, but it's not unheard of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kearney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kearney)