[yor_on]

Everything becomes a tool, and ideals, values and beliefs. And the game driving them.

[yor_on]

Combine it.

https://www.newsweek.com/thawing-permafrost-melt-release-microbes-stored-ice-1686671

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/27/viruses-survive-in-fresh-water-by-hitchhiking-on-plastic-study-finds

https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/news/2022/first-evidence-of-microplastics-in-antarctic-snow.html

Then add the epidemic, the question of deforestation's, urbanization's, impact on eco and bio resilience. It's good stuff for a horror movie.

[yor_on]

Then add all those allergies growing, and pollution increasing the effects of those. Then add rising wet bulb temperatures.

[yor_on]

Then add add starvation's, wars, migrations, and decreasing resistances with it. Then add modern infra structures, traveling, droughts, floods, and global food stores just covering some months.

[yor_on]

Then add the belief that we need more land cleared, more mono farms and industrial farming, to handle our over population.

Then add the game

[Colin2B]

Still not about the essay Collin.

It’s very much about that and clarity of what you are trying to say.

[yor_on]

This Collin " That “ Sorry, not interested” sort of sums up this entire “essay”. You are too quick to quote opinions without reading thoroughly and quoting correctly. "

And my response " Still, it would be nice if people instead of nitpicking would refer to where they think my quotes are 'wrong'. And where my logic might take me wrong. "

[yor_on]

You don't want this essay here, it's pretty controversial, am I correct? Then just say it.

[alancalverd]

If you engaged an HMS in battle, you might not be breaking the Geneva Convention. If you sank an RMS you might be prosecuted for a war crime. The difference is important, which is why they wear different flags.

And water doesn't necessarily fall from the sky when the RH reaches 100%. Look up and marvel at the clouds. The thermal importance of atmospheric water is that it has an enormous IR absorption spectrum, far broader than any other constituent gas, exists in all three phases in the atmosphere, and determines the global albedo. Ignore it at your peril!

[yor_on]

Quite poetic Alan. And I wrote 'generally' if you read my comment, or even looked, at that study?

[yor_on]

You didn't. am I correct?

[yor_on]

I'll link it again Alan. Myself, I think it's worth reading

" Supersaturation of a few percent does occur in the atmosphere, especially when there is a shortage of condensation nuclei on which drops can form, but for large-scale climate studies it is an excellent approximation to assume that whenever e rises above e_s vapor condenses to bring the relative humidity back to unity. In much of the atmosphere it is the saturation pressure over ice, rather than water, that is relevant, but we will not refer explicitly to this distinction "

Both statements are obviously wrong.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237726750_Water_Vapor_Feedback_and_Global_Warming


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[yor_on]

It's easier handling trolling than this kind of behavior, constantly looking for something to attack in a studious manner. I like science, but this essay isn't about nitpicking.


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[yor_on]

It's about us, going in the wrong direction

[yor_on]

Thinking of it. With our dust storms on the increase there should be no shortage of 'nuclei' for those water drops to form, and fall out.

[yor_on]

And generally speaking that should lead to heavy rains, floods etc, where this happens, increasing with each degree of the local temperatures . I say local because what counts for f.ex crops, is the local variation of temperature. It's not the 'global mean' that will decide your own crop failures.

[yor_on]

And again, generally speaking, increase the possibility of flushing away that precious topsoil, making the next crop even worse.

[yor_on]

Then there are other things playing a role. With irrigation comes a higher wet bulb temperature, more water in the air. As well as temperatures at night are of a vital importance, not only day time.

https://marylandgrows.umd.edu/2022/05/20/pollination-of-vegetable-crops-in-a-warming-climate/

2012  https://www.farmprogress.com/corn/high-temperature-effects-corn-soybeans

A double whammy for those wanting pollinators, which already are found being in decline.

[yor_on]

Then we add wars.

[yor_on]

And groundwater shortages, as in USA.