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Title: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 01:13:57
Dark Matter Theory (https://www.wired.com/story/this-dark-matter-theory-could-solve-a-celestial-conundrum/)

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our galaxy is swimming in a superfluid sea

Dark Matter More Ubiquitous Than We Ever Thought  (https://www.inverse.com/article/24863-dark-matter-might-be-smoother-than-we-thought)

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dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

The Milky Way swimming in a superfluid sea displaces the sea. The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the sea. The state of displacement of the sea is curved spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 01:15:49
Dark Matter Theory (https://www.wired.com/story/this-dark-matter-theory-could-solve-a-celestial-conundrum/)

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our galaxy is swimming in a superfluid sea

Dark Matter More Ubiquitous Than We Ever Thought  (https://www.inverse.com/article/24863-dark-matter-might-be-smoother-than-we-thought)

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dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

The Milky Way swimming in a superfluid sea displaces the sea. The Milky Way’s halo is the state of displacement of the sea. The state of displacement of the is sea curved spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.

Or maybe you are  thinking imaginable patterns in an open space...
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 01:20:42
Or maybe you are  thinking imaginable patterns in an open space...

I'm thinking the Milky Way is moving through and displacing the superfluid sea, analogous to a submarine moving through and displacing the water.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 01:31:48
Or maybe you are  thinking imaginable patterns in an open space...

I'm thinking the Milky Way is moving through and displacing the superfluid sea, analogous to a submarine moving through and displacing the water.
Space is not made of anything of physical substance and can not be displaced.  I can understand your thoughts and it is good to have a go at creating something new.  My balloon observation shows that space is passive to all matter and can pass through all matter while the matter is in motion.
I think personally pretending imaginable patterns such as an elliptic pathway creates confusion. People often imagine the elliptic highway to be of physicality creating the illusion of patterns or shape. Gravity is a linear force between two bodies as if swinging around on a rod, the curvature of space is nothing more than an imaginable pattern/shape . 

Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 01:42:37
Space is not made of anything of physical substance and can not be displaced.

From the second article in my original post:

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dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

Robert B. Laughlin: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories#Quantum_vacuum)

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the empty vacuum of space … is filled with 'stuff'

Laughlin’s ‘stuff’ is the superfluid sea which fills ‘empty’ space that is displaced by ordinary matter.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 01:55:47
Space is not made of anything of physical substance and can not be displaced.

From the second article in my original post:

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dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

Robert B. Laughlin: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories#Quantum_vacuum)

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the empty vacuum of space … is filled with 'stuff'

Laughlin’s ‘stuff’ is the superfluid sea which fills ‘empty’ space that is displaced by ordinary matter.
But the stuff that fills the empty  space is fields, dark matter and dark energy are something else that is made up of the imagination. If you want a good solid theory or hypothesis, base it on something concrete,  like at the moment I am trying to ''crack'' the mystery of what the mechanics of gravity is. I am using present knowledge that is not made up stuff to try and answer this question. Making a theory about something that is made up to begin with is not good science in my opinion.  However you have the ability to think for yourself, I am sure you will get something one day if you keep thinking.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 02:02:02
But the stuff that fills the empty  space is fields, dark matter and dark energy are something else that is made up of the imagination.

You're just ignoring and talking past my posts at this point. As I have stated and posted links which support what I stated, I believe dark matter is a smoothly distributed superfluid sea particles of ordinary matter move through and displace, including 'particles' as large as galaxies and galaxy clusters.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 02:10:21
But the stuff that fills the empty  space is fields, dark matter and dark energy are something else that is made up of the imagination.

You're just ignoring and talking past my posts at this point. As I have stated and posted links which support what I stated, I believe dark matter is a smoothly distributed superfluid sea particles of ordinary matter move through and displace, including 'particles' as large as galaxies and galaxy clusters.
First off I am not ignoring you, you are into science and like to think about things so I am trying to help you and point you in the right direction. In science belief means nothing, what I and yourself believe is of no interest to science.  They want hard facts, for example I have quoted below:

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dark matter is a smoothly distributed super fluid


Now the problem with this is that you could not prove the existence of either, an ether as already been searched for and never found and dark matter is also made up and not a factual thing.  So unless you could produce evidence of either in concrete proof your ideas are no more than vivid imagination.
That is why I am trying to advise you to look for something else that you can provide some concrete evidence too or else you will just be going back and forth for years getting nowhere . 
This is one thing I have learned over the years about science.

Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 02:23:45
Now the problem with this is that you could not prove the existence of either

There is evidence of the smoothly distributed superfluid sea every time a double slit experiment is performed, it's what waves.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 02:38:56
Now the problem with this is that you could not prove the existence of either

There is evidence of the smoothly distributed superfluid sea every time a double slit experiment is performed, it's what waves.
The dual slit experiment is observer affect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

It means very little. Also the results are magnetic radiation related and nothing to do with a super fluid.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 02:48:00
Now the problem with this is that you could not prove the existence of either

There is evidence of the smoothly distributed superfluid sea every time a double slit experiment is performed, it's what waves.
The dual slit experiment is observer affect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

It means very little. Also the results are magnetic radiation related and nothing to do with a super fluid.

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its associated wave in the superfluid sea. In a double slit experiment the particle always travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the superfluid sea passes through both.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 02:51:53
Now the problem with this is that you could not prove the existence of either

There is evidence of the smoothly distributed superfluid sea every time a double slit experiment is performed, it's what waves.
The dual slit experiment is observer affect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

It means very little. Also the results are magnetic radiation related and nothing to do with a super fluid.

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its associated wave in the superfluid sea. In a double slit experiment the particle always travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the superfluid sea passes through both.
I have already explained to you the cause and affect of the slit experiments, the  affect is man made and not a natural affect of light. You keep mentioning this superfluid sea that does not exist, do you know what subjective means? You are being quite subjective and ignoring any objective.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 02:56:19
I have already explained to you the cause and affect of the slit experiments, the  affect is man made and not a natural affect of light. You keep mentioning this superfluid sea that does not exist, do you know what subjective means? You are being quite subjective and ignoring any objective.

In a double slit experiment the particle always travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the superfluid sea passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the particle travels as it exits a single slit. Over time the particles form an interference pattern. Strongly detecting the particle exiting a single slit destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and does not form an interference pattern.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: guest39538 on 30/07/2017 03:01:01
I have already explained to you the cause and affect of the slit experiments, the  affect is man made and not a natural affect of light. You keep mentioning this superfluid sea that does not exist, do you know what subjective means? You are being quite subjective and ignoring any objective.

In a double slit experiment the particle always travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the superfluid sea passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the particle travels as it exits a single slit. Over time the particles form an interference pattern. Strongly detecting the particle exiting a single slit destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and does not form an interference pattern.
The angled slits cause the light to bottle neck and ''spit'' through the exit creating an interference pattern, cause and affect nothing more .   The rest is of the imagination.  Repeating subjective will not make it true.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 03:03:46
The angled slits cause the light to bottle neck and ''spit'' through the exit creating an interference pattern, cause and affect nothing more .   The rest is of the imagination.  Repeating subjective will not make it true.

LOUIS DE BROGLIE:

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Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier.

According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium” which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty space”.

De Broglie’s “subquantic medium” is the superfluid sea.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: GoC on 30/07/2017 14:48:48
De Broglie’s “subquantic medium” is the superfluid sea

I would have to agree with you for many reasons. My interpretation is energy being of space to move electrons. The spectrum being energy c for communication.
Title: Re: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?
Post by: fthomposon on 30/07/2017 18:40:56
I would have to agree with you for many reasons. My interpretation is energy being of space to move electrons. The spectrum being energy c for communication.

The superfluid sea changes state at c.

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