So I say, we need a real democracy. It might not be any better but it shouldn't be any worse. And one thing you can take with you, gaining a real democracy, is that whatever came from it was democratic.
It's all relative of course. I look at it from a humanitarian point of view, and doing that Ukraine has payed the price for our subterfuge. Where some will use that price to urge us to get into a world war, as it otherwise becomes 'meaningless'.
And yes, and no. NATO will be involved all the way, although you will need a real war to erupt for it to be taken out of the hands of Europe, as I understands it. In the hands of USA (SACEUR ) as the highest military command of Western troops. Until then it will be Mr Stoltenberg and CMC that has the say.
Ukraine. First by jumping on the All American bandwagon, mistaking their soap operas for reality. Then by waking up to a Russian invasion. The rest of it, EU, the UK and the West not that serious. But for Ukraine and Russia it has created a new bleeding wound, where they already had enough of them.