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Title: Is benzoylmethyl ecgonine (cocaine) addictive?
Post by: MDriver1981 on 31/01/2009 04:17:54
Can benzoylmethyl ecgonine get a person hooked after only one use?
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Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/01/2009 04:21:23
What is that? Cocaine?
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Post by: MDriver1981 on 31/01/2009 04:28:24
Yes, sorry.  I used the international name for it.
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Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/01/2009 04:31:09
How much do you mean by 'one use'?
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Post by: MDriver1981 on 31/01/2009 04:40:08
1 ounce
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Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/01/2009 04:44:13
It wasn't crack cocaine was it?
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Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/01/2009 04:53:47
It would be very hard to predict whether you will or will not be hooked.
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Post by: RD on 31/01/2009 10:30:10
1 ounce

An ounce is 28 grams ... http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=i2gQfwSjM8wC&pg=PA100&lpg
Title: Is benzoylmethyl ecgonine (cocaine) addictive?
Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/01/2009 21:52:09
So 28 grams is quite a lot!
Title: Is benzoylmethyl ecgonine (cocaine) addictive?
Post by: MDriver1981 on 01/02/2009 00:53:03
I don't, nor ever have personally consumed cocaine, nor any kind of narcotic.  I was just simply asking.
Title: Is benzoylmethyl ecgonine (cocaine) addictive?
Post by: Chemistry4me on 01/02/2009 02:13:37
Good to know MDriver1981 [:)][:)][:)]
Title: Is benzoylmethyl ecgonine (cocaine) addictive?
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 01/02/2009 15:02:25
1 ounce? Are you sure of that? That amount would be fatal even at 85% cut (most street coke is 70% cut). For even a fairly heavy user, a couple of grams would last a day or so.

The amount of times a person would need to use it before they become addicted is impossible to estimate. With coke it is usually a growing dependence rather than an instant addiction.

Crack cocaine, however, is a bit different. I have heard anecdotal accounts of people becoming addicted after 1 hit, but I believe that to be somewhat misleading. Not many people will start with crack so there is the possibility that they are already dependent on something else.

I've tried crack once. Working with addicts I thought it would help if I knew first hand what I was talking about. To be honest, I didn't rate it and would be in no rush to do it again. I used quite a lot of coke when I was a professional rock musician and I much prefer that to crack.

As I stated in another thread, my research showed that some people have a dependency potential. Crack is not a social drug like cannabis. It is mainly used by people who use other drugs as well. Certainly, the vast majority of crack addicts I've met have also been habitual users of cannabis, E, speed and/or heroin. In the absence of drugs they have used strong lager & cider instead. That shows the need to be "off their face" on something and it doesn't really matter what it is.

I'm not saying that crack is not highly addictive - it certainly can be - but one needs to look at the psychological profiles of users before any firm conclusions can be drawn.