[Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)]

Man Camp is an intensive, week long emotional retraining program designed to help men empathize with their wives, so they know what it's like to be a woman. Men are not only taught to emotionally connect with their wives/girlfriends, but to learn how to openly cry. Men are taught how to be interested and focused on what their wives/girlfriends have to say. I'm sure you all get the gist of it.

So, have any of you read up on this, and have found any evidence that they work? It seems like so many programs, self help groups, et cetera, are able to function quite well despite clear evidence of the contrary.

[eeyore]

It depends upon the degree of heterosexuality there is in your nature. Personally. if it will help me make beautiful music more often...sign me up.

As for you guys that would rather spend your evening with your pals down at the local boozer, well, that's perfectly normal and you shouldn't be too embarrassed to accept your innate proclivity.

[puppypower]

Is the term, man camp, an oxymoron? The way it was described, it does not seem to involve anything about being a man? Few men want to be the caretakers of women with disabilities. They prefer healthy women, whose inner strength comes from being true to what is natural female.

Culture has tried to create fake men and fake women, with the women having been easier to manipulate. In terms of the needs of marketing and propaganda, it is easier to create conformity using feelings, than logic; PC. This push has led to more women with problems, who now need to be empathized with. The goal of man camp appears to be to use the lingering natural strength of the men, who have not eating of the bad apple, as a crutch, to help support the disabilities created in women.

If women wish to overcome, don't use the crutch by stop letting cultural fads thinks for you, and find your inner woman. This is the source of a woman's strength that historically made the women the rock of the family, not the blob of jello that culture can manipulate for the need of power; politics, and money; marketing. 

When will psychology evolve beyond rational polytheism, using emotional angles to justify its own dissociated state? Rational monotheism would make sure what is taught works properly with the brain's operating system, and does not lead to disabilities, even if this means perpetual jobs.

[eeyore]

"overcome" did you say?

It's a funny old world isn't it? There are, in fact, women who like men who must overcome them. It's nothing to be ashamed about and perfectly normal. There are also men who like to be overcome. In fact, in some circles that is known as being into  "English culture".


Who is, after all, to say what is normal? I find it difficult to have a pleasant and meaningful conversation when either party is fixated on whether or not they are being "overcomed".

[alancalverd]

so they know what it's like to be a woman.

To what purpose? Most of us will never be women, or chickens, or indeed anything else but men. Primo Levi wrote a very perceptive short story about a reverse-EEG helmet that captured the mental experiences of sportsmen and adventurers and replayed them into the brains of the customers. All great fun except when the male customer was given the EEG of a woman and could not relate it to his body or his past. 

Men are not only taught to emotionally connect with their wives/girlfriends, but to learn how to openly cry.

To what purpose? If you aren't emotionally connected, how do you define wife/girlfriend? If tears don't come naturally, why bother? 

Men are taught how to be interested and focused on what their wives/girlfriends have to say.

Why not choose a woman who has something interesting to say in the first place? There are plenty out there!

[eeyore]

We read today in the Daily Mail, "Britain has highest divorce rate in EU".

How ever could that be given the vast and comprehensive  understanding of domestic relations on display here?

One thing is sure. Even with the heart attacks, I am glad that I was born a straight man. Based upon 70 years of observation, if I were a woman, wild horses couldn't get me to marry such men. I would prefer to live with a billy goat.

[alancalverd]

Chacun a son goat?

I took the easy route - married a beautiful woman with lots of interesting things to say. No need for tears until she died. 

[Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)]

We read today in the Daily Mail, "Britain has highest divorce rate in EU".

Well, look on the brightside. Britain no longer has the highest divorce rate in the EU.

[Bored chemist]

We read today in the Daily Mail, "Britain has highest divorce rate in EU".

Well, look on the bright side. Britain no longer has the highest divorce rate in the EU.

It  was in the Daily Fail and, as one might expect, it's not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography

[Pseudoscience-is-malarkey (OP)]

We read today in the Daily Mail, "Britain has highest divorce rate in EU".

Well, look on the bright side. Britain no longer has the highest divorce rate in the EU.

It  was in the Daily Fail and, as one might expect, it's not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography

Just a comment, but many of you Brits debate the Daily Mail's political bias. What I have found is that both sides of the political spectrum largely despise the deep thinkers behind that tabloid. I recall after 911 one contributor there mocked one of the "jumpers".

[diverjohn]

In my experience, a man is far smarter to understand himself than to understand a woman. If he believes his role in life hinges on a woman's behaviour then he cannot mature as a person and risks becoming part of a codependant relationship.
Once a man knows his role in life -- beyond a job title -- and his expectations, then he can truly flourish.
I believe most men are confused by modern society's expectations of a man. We are told we must wear a certain brand of after-shave lotion that makes young women tremble, possess a sleek automobile with a growling engine, own a closet full of automatic weapons to protect our family from Hollywood villains, or to make love to a Russian spy after we've murdered her handler. These are fantasies, not real life.
Many of the great psychologists have made their careers on helping peopel to find meaning in their lives. From Joseph Campbells "Hero of a Thousand Faces" to Carl Jung's archetypes to Maslow's heirarchy of needs to Rollo May's study of existentialism, and Robert Bly's "Iron John", we have a lot of academic advice on achieving happiness and using our talents and genius that is largely ignored.
I'll close with a favorite quote: "The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why."
Mark Twain

[Rodin1880]

I remember when Hillary said: "Men need to find their inner-female"... since that time fewer and fewer male children ever became men...
Today we see 40-something women marrying 60 something men, because by design women want men, real men that have the qualities they, as women, lack...
There is no equality, men and women have an equivalence, but are mostly, each are half of the human experience...
Women's Lib was the beginning of the destruction for heterosexual couples... Liberal idealism are finishing them off...

[Bored chemist]

since that time fewer and fewer male children ever became men...

You don't have any evidence to back that up, do you?
So, why post it on a science site?

[Jesusbaker]

Great idea of man camp. This is a great concept which will help men to understand their other mates leading to an improved relationship.