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Life Sciences => Cells, Microbes & Viruses => Topic started by: Zer0 on 31/10/2022 18:19:44

Title: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: Zer0 on 31/10/2022 18:19:44
I heard one can buy a CRISPR9 crash set online for like 70 bucks.

What happens when Religious Extremists Groups try their hands on producing harmful pathogens?

P.S. - Is there an International Regulatory Body in place, if Yes, how Successful can it be?
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: alancalverd on 31/10/2022 18:50:57
Organised governments are quite good at manufacturing lethal weapons of all sorts, and deploying them for all sorts of reasons that make no sense to anyone else. Religious folk are no different, but don't usually have a single home territory. The only hope is that they will harm themselves more than anyone else by playing god, which is presumably against their religion.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: paul cotter on 31/10/2022 20:06:58
An anti-Trump virus would be a good start.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: evan_au on 31/10/2022 21:28:31
CRISPR still needs template RNAs, coding for the gene to be added to an organism.
These RNA sequences are typically ordered from a factory, and I assume that the factories would have filters searching for suspicious-looking genes for toxins.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: Zer0 on 01/11/2022 07:53:06
What about the Taliban?

They aren't a bunch of local goons anymore, they represent the Government of Afghanistan.

Opium production has kicked back in.
Mining is fully restored.
Tax money & foreign funding is pouring in.
So the Moneyis there.

Colleges & Universities are up & running.
Few of them seem highly educated as well.
Surely Biological weapons are easier to form than researching Nuclear technologies & enriching uranium plutonium & then moving to Rocket science.
So the Resourcesare present.

They don't seem to have given up on religious extremism, they are scorched & hardliners, might be even Revengeful.
So the Motivationis there too.

So Spying would be the Only way to really know what They are up to, Right?
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: evan_au on 01/11/2022 08:45:19
Quote from: OP
harmful pathogens?
Living pathogens (viruses & bacteria) are much harder to aim than bombs or toxins.

Once pathogens are  released, they go wherever they please (as recently illustrated by COVID-19).
- If COVID was released from a lab in China (accidentally or on purpose), then the host country has suffered widespread illness in its respected elders and punishing lockdowns (I understand that everyone visiting Disneyland Shanghai today is stuck there until they pass a COVID test...)
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: Bored chemist on 01/11/2022 13:19:39
Quote from: OP
harmful pathogens?
Living pathogens (viruses & bacteria) are much harder to aim than bombs or toxins.

Once pathogens are  released, they go wherever they please (as recently illustrated by COVID-19).
- If COVID was released from a lab in China (accidentally or on purpose), then the host country has suffered widespread illness in its respected elders and punishing lockdowns (I understand that everyone visiting Disneyland Shanghai today is stuck there until they pass a COVID test...)
That's a problem if you are rational.
But if you think that your bioweapon will help get the infidels into hell and your faithful into heaven, it's not an issue.

Incidentally
If COVID was released from a lab in China
It wasn't, and it doesn't help when people hear talk as if it might have been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_theory

Please don't peddle silly conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: alancalverd on 01/11/2022 13:25:47
So Spying would be the Only way to really know what They are up to, Right?
No. They are quite open about their repression of human rights, denigration of women, and the fact that everything they do is justified by their own perversions. It is safe to assume that they will continue to rape and torture their own subjects for as long as others are prepared to buy their products, after which they will seek revenge for some invented wrong.

That's how politicians work.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: Bored chemist on 01/11/2022 14:36:46
as long as others are prepared to buy their products
I'm not saying that's the best reason to legalise the use of heroin. But the choice to buy "locally grown" produce would defund the Taliban.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: Zer0 on 01/11/2022 20:34:22
" That's a problem if you are rational.
But if you think that your bioweapon will help get the infidels into hell and your faithful into heaven, it's not an issue. "

Excellent Point BC!

A few words on Chyna!
The Only city that changed my life completely & had a deep impact on me, even without me visiting the city personally has got to be Wuhan!

I first read an article bout the lab leak hypothesis.
Blamed the Chinese for being Careless.

Then read an article on Dr Fauci.
Then Blamed America for funding it.

Then i thought, wait a minute, the US paid up handsomely for the Testing.
But then Lab facilities might have been Mediocre.
Then i went back to blaming the Chinese again for being carelessly Dumb.

Then i read another article.
& Suspected France for awhile.

Finally i watched videos showing the Chinese eating flying, walking, crawling & almost anything & everything available.

I Love PETA!
& Hated Chinese Culture.

But later on i Realised that it's just the way they are, they are different, they go about their lives differently.
Their Cultures & Traditions are Simply very Different, that's all.

Finally i gave up on the Blame Game & the Hate & simply understood the Law of Probabilities.
If there is a Chance of something happening, then given enough time, it will eventually Happen!

Edit - Changed " Great Point " into " Excellent Point ".
As Time progressed, i Realised the Immense weight that Thought encloses.
Title: Re: Bio Terrorism?
Post by: William Hardy on 14/12/2022 16:15:26
You can probably read through these three research articles:
https://doaj.org/article/0b82c426e6b64b43862462ed9d3eda7f
https://doaj.org/article/1e079ba3850849c5bdd89f614d0d4a5e
https://doaj.org/article/00406c797a164f61b0e35d6781b7e28e