[remotemass (OP)]

Why would LED ligths in cargo ship is a good idea and not spend much fuel?


ANSWER:

LED lights are a good idea for cargo ships because they are highly energy-efficient and long-lasting compared to traditional lighting systems. LED lights consume much less energy to produce the same amount of light, which translates to a reduction in the amount of fuel needed to generate the electricity to power them. In addition, they have a much longer lifespan compared to traditional lighting systems, reducing the frequency of replacements and maintenance.

By using LED lights to promote the growth of kelp in the ocean, cargo ships can reduce the need to use fertilizers and other harmful chemicals, which can be detrimental to marine life. Furthermore, kelp can help sequester carbon dioxide, potentially mitigating the effects of climate change. Overall, using LED lights is a more sustainable and environmentally friendly approach to promoting kelp growth in the ocean.

How many lux is 1 million bright white LED lights?

The brightness of a single LED light can vary, so it is difficult to provide an exact answer. However, on average, a single LED can produce about 1 to 10 lumens of light.

Assuming an average LED brightness of 5 lumens, 1 million bright white LED lights would produce about 5 million lumens. To determine the lux level, you would need to know the area over which the light is being spread. For example, if the 5 million lumens were spread over an area of 100 square meters, the lux level would be 50,000 lux (5 million lumens / 100 square meters).

[alancalverd]

Well there's a fair bit of BS if ever I heard it.
Which part of a cargo ship is continuously lighted? Why make life easier for the rats?
Does anyone actually want kelp (or anything else) to grow on the hull of a ship?
Fail.

[Zer0]

Possibly Translation Errors.

The first paragraph is Fine.

But Cargo ships, kelp, fertilizers & harmful chemicals does Not add up.

Perhaps, it's Not about Cargo Ships.
Cos it Doesn't state Red or Green lights.
Or
It Ain't bout Kelp underwater in the Ocean, coz it mentions White light.

If Cgpt is at play here is also Doubtful.
(Thou, No doubts bout it All being Unsolicited.)

[alancalverd]

And AFAIK practically all navigation lights are LEDs nowadays anyway. Not that power consumption is a major concern on a cargo ship, but reliability certainly is.

[Petrochemicals]

I do not believe this is a commercial site, I have checked to the best of my ability. If it is it is not very apparent or accessible. It is a genuine academic site I believe.

https://archive.learnhigher.ac.uk/Students/Report-writing/Whats-it-all-about/How-do-i-write-clearly-and-concisely.html

[alancalverd]

Good advice! Pity the commercial "let us write your thesis" spammers haven't read it.

I'm less in favor of the passive voice. Say why you did it, say what you did, say what you saw, say what you think about it. It's the standard debrief for things that really matter, and science really matters.

[Petrochemicals]

Chat gpt is angling for a 3rd class if not a fail, even if it includes new research. Waffling on like that is severely marked.

[evan_au]

Today I heard a story about someone who became an editor at a major newspaper, just 2 years after graduation...
- She was editor of AI
- It turns out that the AI was writing the news stories, and her editors job was to detect and correct (or delete) the AI hallucinations...

The story is here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/if-ai-starts-making-music-on-its-own-what-happens-to-musicians/#transcripts-body

[alancalverd]

The answer is simple. Music is made by animals, for communication. Noise is made by machines, because there's something wrong.

[paul cotter]

I know nothing about ChatGPT and will probably never use it. Completely off-topic, what would happen if one asked "what is ChatGPT?". Would it go into a terminal loop and self destruct?

[alancalverd]

ChatGPT is a system for cutting and pasting superficially relevant text published on the internet.Thank you for your enquiry. We look forward to wasting more of your time in future.

[paul cotter]

That's boring, but thank you, Alancalverd. When bored mischievous thoughts invade my psyche.

[alancalverd]

"Boring is the activity of making holes in things. Large vertical holes are known as shafts. Shafts are also rigid poles. Poles are people who live in or originate from Poland, a central European country with a strong tradition of craftsmanship in wood. Polish carpenters can be amusing but  are often boring at work. Boring is the activity of making holes in things....."   

[paul cotter]

Yes indeed, Alancalverd, these carpenters that you so eloquently refer to will burnish their work with a generous layer of polish.

[Eternal Student]

Hi.

There doesn't seem to be any further comments from the OP  (remotemass),   I'm not sure what the original question or issue was supposed to be.

Nevermind,  let's just look on one thing.   ChatGPT can answer some questions without a user needing to use a forum.     "Why is the sky blue?",   "Why do dogs have tails?"  -  various small questions that people may have otherwise put on a science forum like this one. It will actually give good answers to sensible short questions like that.   So that's most of the main sections of the forum sorted out.

   Also, there's no need for people to spend some hours creating a new theory to post in the new theories section.   ChatGPT can easily produce a 1000 word essay (or more) on just about anything:  "Write 1000 words describing a new theory of gravity which contains the phrase 'quantum hyper loop' ".    Best of all, the replies can be generated by someone copy-and-pasting the article straight back into ChatGPT and just asking it to critically review that text.

   So, it's not all bad:   ChatGPT is capable of making forum users (including moderators) completely obsolete.
Just for demonstration I have fed ChatGPT with this instruction....
   "Please critically review the following article:    "    (and then copy-and-pasted the recent thread located here:
 https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86209.0 ).

The reply has been copied to that thread - I've specifically marked where ChatGPT took over,  you could easily imagine that this could have been the only reply required.   I have spent some time to write my own reply first just because it seems rude to leave the original creator of that thread with nothing but an automated response.

Best Wishes.

[Zer0]

   So, it's not all bad:   ChatGPT is capable of making forum users (including moderators) completely obsolete.

Best Wishes.

It will Not, because it can Not, match up with...

Remote's Translation Skills.
Geordief's Quantum Dreamz.
Harry's Horrible Creams.
Alan's Noble Wisdoms.
Paul's Regular Absenteeism.
B.C.'s Clever Wits.
Dave's Theorising Fitz.
YorOn's Nonstop Persistency.
Yusuf's Endless Curiosities.
Origin's Don't be Sillies.
Puppy's Water Lilies.
Bogie's Wild Imaginations.
Spoon's Mysterious Silence.
P.C.'s Auto Korrecktz.
Janus's Math e Magics.
Ocean's Deep Theodicies.
Jim's Philosophical Queries.
Jeoffrey's Quantum Zones.
Syphrum 's Serious Tones.
Eric's Dangerous Hobbies.
Clifford's Admin Qualities.
Evan's Crystal Clarities.
Kryptid"s Pinpoint Accuracies.
Cpu's Evolution Theories.
Aries's Mesmerizing Stories.
Chiral"s Molecular Maturities.
Hal"s Don't call me Halcyz.
Colin's Wham Bam Spamzyz.
Vhfpmr's Lucid Dreamz.
Pseudo's Obnoxious OPz.
Chris's Groucho Marxz.
Neil's Ewe Hugz & Smishez.
Eternal"s Best Wishes.

WE are Not Expendables!
WE are Irreplaceables!
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(EDIT - Modifications)

[alancalverd]

I don't think a mod's job is to review but to moderate - we are referees, not sports journalists.

As for general involvement in a thread, it would be interesting to see if ChatGPT could contribute something novel or amusing.

[Eternal Student]

Hi.

As for general involvement in a thread, it would be interesting to see if ChatGPT could contribute something novel or amusing.

     As for something novel,  what are you talking about?   

1.   The entirety of the original post in this thread was generated by ChatGPT.   People have managed, or wished to talk about it.  Remotemass has posted at least one other thread that contained nothing other than some output from ChatGPT.
       
2.    It's been the main topic of discussion in a thread by @hamdani yusuf  for the last week or two  (See   https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=77747.msg699873#msg699873   for example).

3.    @tonylang  submitted a lengthy (approximately 3 page) forum post that contained only a structured discussion with ChatGPT and nothing else.    (reference:   https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=54557.msg698234#msg698234 ).   

4.     I have just used it to analyse and report on a draft paper submitted in the new theories section of the forum.

5.     If you want something amusing (and relevant) just ask....


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6.    Other forums are already considering what sort of policies they will have for the use of ChatGPT and similar software.   For example, deciding if content generated by ChatGPT must be cited and acknowledged similar to taking an extract from some other text or if it is acceptable to consider it as part of your own work (just using some sophisticated tools).

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    Anyway, that's enough about ChatGPT,  I'm not their PR representative.   Quite the contrary, I'm just a human being who doesn't want to be answering or replying to forum posts that no human being ever created in the first place.   However, I'm also just about calm enough to recognise that this sort of software is an incredibly powerful tool when used appropriately.  One way or another, it is already out there and having some impact on forums including this one.

 Best Wishes.

[alancalverd]

ChatGPT can only source its data from the internet, therefore none of its source material can be considered novel or original. At best, it's stuff that you might have found if you had the time and inclination to search everyone else's published material, but that is about as interesting and valuable an intellectual exercise as literary criticism - "books of bad English written about a few pages of good English". 

[Eternal Student]

Hi.

ChatGPT can only source its data from the internet, therefore none of its source material can be considered novel or original.

     
     The   G   in  ChatGPT   stands for "Generative".    It doesn't just copy huge sections of existing text,  it is capable of blending many texts and, more importantly, generating completely new text just by following some basic rules of grammar that it has identified automatically during its training and development.
    What definition of "new" or "novel" are you trying to apply?   Nothing I can create is really novel.   All the words I know were learnt from my parents, from school or from other pieces of text I read in later life.   Eventually I remembered the spelling, how the word was used and what meaning was being conveyed by it.   All I do is to put those words down in some order, following some rules of grammar.

    The whole phenomena is more easily seen (or heard) when AI systems  OR   human beings are asked to compose music.   There are only so many notes that exist on a treble clef and both human and AI composers will inevitably have some musical phrases that are identical to sections that exist in some other piece of work.    However, overall the piece of music can be considered as something new and original.   Both the AI and human being were influenced by music they have already heard.    Both of them used some sections that were just minor variations or completely identical to something they have heard.   Both of them blended existing ideas together in a certain way  and finally, both of them made some sections that were genuinely quite new and just followed some rules or principles for setting down a combination of notes that would sound sensible.
   @evan_au, post #7, gave some examples of how creative an AI system can be.

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    Let's also return to the earlier parts of this forum thread for a moment.   Many people were quick to dismiss the replies from ChatGPT about LED lights but it was probably just having some trouble understanding the task.  Like all software, the user is an important part of the system.  Let's just change some spelling and reformulate the question.


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   That seems like useable output to me.

 Now let's interact and prompt it on the issue of growing kelp:


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   That also seems like useable output.   The final phrase - about damaging the ecosystem - seems to be a very good example of an interesting, relevant and totally new issue that ChatGPT has brought to the table.

Best Wishes.