[alancalverd]

So a majority of Russian, Chinese and Indian citizens have all voted specifically in favor of their tax revenues being used for space travel? Or have their respective governments simply spent the money on the glorification of politicians without seeking consent?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

So a majority of Russian, Chinese and Indian citizens have all voted specifically in favor of their tax revenues being used for space travel? Or have their respective governments simply spent the money on the glorification of politicians without seeking consent?

At least they don't go against it that much to hold a protest.

[alancalverd]

Avoiding imprisonment, torture and murder does not equate, in my book, to consent. And thanks to religion and local corruption, the Indian electorate is too busy attacking itself to be concerned with the minutiae of government expenditure.

The problem with vanity projects is that large opposition parties (where they exist)  aspire to basking in their success if they get elected before completion!

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Avoiding imprisonment, torture and murder does not equate, in my book, to consent. And thanks to religion and local corruption, the Indian electorate is too busy attacking itself to be concerned with the minutiae of government expenditure.

The problem with vanity projects is that large opposition parties (where they exist)  aspire to basking in their success if they get elected before completion!

Developing AGI was once deemed as a vanity project. So were renewable energy, EV, fusion reactor, and quantum computer. Now they are mainly developed by private sector instead of government. Some companies are financially more powerful than some countries.

[Zer0]

A woman in a red miniskirt with red lipstick, seems as attractive as the full moon.
(vanity)
In the sludgy scummy corner of the pond, thrive bacteria n fungi, & the Lotus blooms!
(reality)

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Avoiding imprisonment, torture and murder does not equate, in my book, to consent. And thanks to religion and local corruption, the Indian electorate is too busy attacking itself to be concerned with the minutiae of government expenditure.

In democratic countries, consent can be expressed in votes.

If something is important enough, you'll do it anyway, even if it's hard, risky, or expensive.

[alancalverd]

In democratic countries, consent can be expressed in votes.

They have just held democratic election in Russia, and the USA is about to confer absolute power on a crook or an idiot, depending on how the vote goes. No question of whether anyone consents to expenditure on space exploration. Nor do I see it on the ballot paper in India.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

In democratic countries, consent can be expressed in votes.

They have just held democratic election in Russia, and the USA is about to confer absolute power on a crook or an idiot, depending on how the vote goes. No question of whether anyone consents to expenditure on space exploration. Nor do I see it on the ballot paper in India.

Someone can come up with a program to stop existing space exploration project. It just happened that not many people are interested to vote for it.

[alancalverd]

When did the electorate get to vote on every possible item of government expenditure? And even when a majority have voted for something, it is still within the power of a relatively democratic party to form an unholy alliance with another and set aside that policy in the interests of commanding a parliamentary majority (at your expense, of course).

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

When did the electorate get to vote on every possible item of government expenditure? And even when a majority have voted for something, it is still within the power of a relatively democratic party to form an unholy alliance with another and set aside that policy in the interests of commanding a parliamentary majority (at your expense, of course).

They make calculations based on what they think are the most important for them. They would have to let go the less important things to get the most important ones. The same goes for the politicians and political parties.

Republicans PANIC over IVF disaster, BACKTRACKING

Republicans are increasingly panicking over the possible impact in 2024 of their continued assault on reproductive rights, most recently the Alabama IVF ruling

[alancalverd]

So in order to Make America Great Again (without anyone stating what that actually means), our cousins voted to pack their Supreme Court with misogynists, leave NATO, and put Putin's puppet in charge of the armed forces.

Presidents come and go (at least for the time being) but appointment to the SC is for life. As is the next president's debt to the Russian fascist.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Presidents come and go (at least for the time being) but appointment to the SC is for life. As is the next president's debt to the Russian fascist.

SC Justices' lives also come and go.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

They make calculations based on what they think are the most important for them. They would have to let go the less important things to get the most important ones. The same goes for the politicians and political parties.

The most important thing for anyone is determined by their terminal goals. If they haven't thought of their terminal goal, then it will be determined by their emotions, instincts, or intuitions. Sooner or later, they will converge and aligned with the universal terminal goal, either voluntarily, or by compulsory, forced by circumstances.

Any conscious entity can be classified based on their thoughts and actions regarding the universal terminal goal.
1. Those who think that there is a universal terminal goal, and act accordingly.
2. Those who think that there is a universal terminal goal, but act contrary to the thought.
3. Those who think that there is no universal terminal goal, and act accordingly.
4. Those who think that there is no universal terminal goal, but act contrary to the thought.

Any conscious entities that exist in the far future are almost surely come from type 1 conscious entities. Type 2 and 4 are unreliable, hence their results are mostly random. In long term, their chance to survive (preserve consciousness in any form) diminishes to near zero. Type 3 will extinct much earlier.

[alancalverd]

Problem is that a critical asset of a civilised society, such as Roe v Wade, took centuries to establish and hours to destroy, and will remain destroyed for as long as any of Trump's crooks and cronies on the SC bench remain alive.  How long before they decriminalise slavery or lynching?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Problem is that a critical asset of a civilised society, such as Roe v Wade, took centuries to establish and hours to destroy, and will remain destroyed for as long as any of Trump's crooks and cronies on the SC bench remain alive.  How long before they decriminalise slavery or lynching?

It would be quicker to reestablish, as long as the voters are overwhelmingly desired it, and express it through their votes.

[alancalverd]

The Supreme Court is not elected by the voters, cannot be dismissed by anyone, and can only be replaced, by presidential nomination, on the death or resignation of a member.

Slavery and lynching were very popular in their day. Since the next US president has already encouraged his supporters to invade Congress rather than accept a majority vote, and decreed that Neo-nazis are "good people" I think we can look forward to the end of civilisation in the USA.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The Supreme Court is not elected by the voters, cannot be dismissed by anyone, and can only be replaced, by presidential nomination, on the death or resignation of a member.

Slavery and lynching were very popular in their day. Since the next US president has already encouraged his supporters to invade Congress rather than accept a majority vote, and decreed that Neo-nazis are "good people" I think we can look forward to the end of civilisation in the USA.

Then you can wait for their death. If the pain that they caused is unbearable, or you become impatient, you can try to accelerate it.

 

[alancalverd]

What planet do you live on?

[Zer0]

I've heard this Alot!

Not every German was a Scumbag, most if not all, were good hearted & kind spirits.

But if that is/was a Factual statement, the Nazis would have had No chance to Rise to Power.

Russians, Chinese, Indians etc.
Are a bit tired of the lecturing West now.
De-Dollarization has become Inevitable.

ps - if the Majority is always of the Fools, then the Biggest one has to be their Leader!

[alancalverd]

"It is better to be king of the shmendriks than the shmendrik of kings." Old Yiddish saying that summarises professional politics, philosophy and economics.